From: "Steven Levine" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 893034 for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:38:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.200.201] (port=47975 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6tP-0005OB-2w for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:37:56 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.64]:36874) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6oX-0006AH-2p for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:32:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1594917173; bh=paweuiOGEwwmIlhMyG8xCx5frrheLzNtGvTH 4Vh1bq0=; h=Received:From:Date:To:In-Reply-To:Subject:X-Mailer: Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; b=XDmolEnndn6SqcbjbX/j3Q ++wuxSMVM/VFzSrjf602Hl1MyAE7z4wL+DzdfNTqSHM1yqU6QgjcSPTnmsfTZRo9lS4 M2chgatt6hJT5Am/nL75Ip1+37Xfvi4m/zSoevaQQbxrW2S/kkovMaZzGANEzmwqTgT kcOW5EhdivmgI2phgwKfYYovahPrK1kTSILrC1q1RC75RMXoHVleTOdmYdEQKGVxa7t mmIfzIRJgSImzyyEkir9ayWOJ27RG9N5TR6hd6kA9DMPwcwQ6DKjmX4s0R95ihBU92p 36h2Z40AQtJsunTyyIHsrdvFukLUbg/+qm0b0iqeWBuAKHY+wk/A== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=BC7HUrCLLXr9xzxdMG35OeTYwYuirP8B85m2E8B4XHxSaER+7tP4Hv/7jFdVzDq6uL9KY1+WAkmXtwj7/2F6beBu3IKQbmA+YvUXpD/kLDjDZm252rU3Q5K5oyAskFRNSuNHnzibQU/jddzOC2cz7Drd1cW6Q+YY+yPgNd7sqk83t+8E4JHUkxv1zg4mEeVvhnBrXZ5aD1twEIWqkO8q0l53kk6yJ9u8Vz3W6+I1uORfyHNljcGvt66IHGTwSqoxbdYMwdRlwEiNKvEB0MTwCU+5JfhAPUg6okrTJ95gB14ICS7Z+uBZ/prUUoqs5+3rnDJ9TjrK8Kd6W3drbznN6A==; h=Received:From:Date:To:In-Reply-To:Subject:X-Mailer:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.193.252.206] (helo=slat60-1) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6oX-00069P-2X for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:32:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:09:15 -0700 To: "eCS ISP Mailing List" In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [eCS-ISP] [BULK] [eCS-ISP] Bind 9.11.20 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v3.00.11.21 BETA/60 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: a1109158fca87577d780f4a490ca6956846b590522b13c95e06562fc298f86bd6c82fd8cf73f59f3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 108.193.252.206 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In , on 07/16/20 at 01:04 PM, "Massimo S." said: Hi, >i only use theese as RBLs: >dbl.spamhaus.org >sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org >maybe your ISP SMTP servers go often or sometimes, dunno, into black >lists More from the multi-verse. As someone that who gets paid to supply mail services to clients, you must know RBLs are not the only tools that ISPs use to determine whether or not to bounce emails. There's Astero, VladeSecure, Barracuda and many more. They all have different criteria for bouncing mail and the criteria changes over time. There are times I think the cure is worse than the disease. I've had it happen to me. In one interesting, for lack of a better word, case an email would go through to the scoug-help mailing list at scoug.com unless it contained a URL in the message body. The issue went away after a few days, so I have to assume the spam gateway that caused the bounce fixed their broken rules. My point is you can't be naive when looking for the cause of email bounces. I'm somewhat surprised you let the issue go unresolved for this long. IAC, I will review your responses to the ticket and see how well you were able to follow my instructions. Steven --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Steven Levine" Warp/DIY/BlueLion etc. www.scoug.com www.arcanoae.com www.warpcave.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --=20 This email was Anti Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.so= phos.com