From: "Steven Levine" <ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com>
Message-ID: <696281c3.6.mr2ice.fgrirsq@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 08:43:47 -0800
To: "eCS ISP Mailing List" <ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-181894@2rosenthals.com>
Subject: Re: [eCS-ISP] perl and mrtg issues

In <list-181894@2rosenthals.com>, on 01/10/26
   at 12:06 PM, "Massimo S." <ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com> said:

Hi Massimo,

>I didn't know about that.

Why not?

>The first place where i look is Hobbes.

Hobbes is fine as long as you are willing to do the work to understand how
to use what you find there.

>Now i'm using this one:
>http://rpm.netlabs.org/release/00/zip/perl-5_16_1-11_oc00.zip

It's your choice to try to install this by hand.  To somewhat repeat
myself, installing from zip files, whereever you might find them, is fine
as long as you are willing to do the work to understand how to install and
configure what you find.

>Anyway with perl 5.16 from Netlabs i've no progress, same errors.

Not unexpected.  A script designed to work with a perl released something
like 8 years ago is unlikely to work as expected when used for perl built
to expect entirely different settings.

>This is a script from the very old perl 5.8, who knows nowadays..

Almost everyone already knows that this script is no longer needed if you
install perl with yum.

>perl -V show:

>Can't locate Config.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
>/@unixroot/usr/local/lib/perl5 /@unixroot/usr/local/share/perl5 
>/@unixroot/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
>/@unixroot/usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /@unixroot/usr/lib/perl5 
>/@unixroot/usr/share/perl5

>I've unzipped perl to d:\perl

The perl -V output is entirely expected given where you chose to install
perl.

>Should i instead install it with YUM?

Almost everyone knows that you need to install rpm packages with rpm or
yum or anpm or you need to completely understand how these tools work and
the rules that must be followed.

If you want to install and rpm package somewhere other than the default
location (i.e. unixroot) you need to know two things.  First, is it
possible.  Typically, as almost everyone knows, it is not possbile. 
Second, if is is possible, you need to know the settings needed to do
this.  This requires reading the package documentation.

>If yes, i'm puzzled, since it show a number of packages eg.
>  groff-base
>  perl-Carp
>  perl-Scalar-List-Utils

This is not puzzling.  This is how packages have always been organized on
the netlabs repo and elsewhere.  Rather than reinventing the wheel, the
package organization generally matches the organization used on the
platforms where the packages were developed.

>I guess i only need base PERL, but how?

What are you basing this guess on?

Almost everyone would just

  yum install perl

or use anpm to do the same thing.  Then they would test if mrtg needed
more than this and install any other perl packages that mrtg might
require.

Steven

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