From: "Massimo S." <ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com>
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Il 11/03/2021 01:13, Steven Levine ha scritto:
> In <list-1733413@2rosenthals.com>, on 03/10/21
>     at 12:58 PM, "Massimo S." <ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com> said:
> 
> Hi Massimo,
> 
>> which package should i updated from the ANPM utility?
>> please give me the list to be on pair with your environments
> 
>> (i guess i've to go to the "available" menu and install the last updates
>> that you will give me the list)
> 
> I may not be the best person to ask because my systems are not typical.
> 
> For your purposes since we are talking about a production system, I
> recommend updating because you need to, not just because an update is
> available.  Updates exist to fix problems, but if you are not experiencing
> the problems the update fixes, installing the update is not likely to
> provide you any immediate benefits and regression do happen.
> 
> For example, if you are getting traps in an older release of libcn0 or the
> release you are running is missing a required entry point for some update
> app, it's time to update the libc package and anything it requires.
> 
> I recommend you learn to use the ANPM Yum tools package export feature.  I
> keep timestampped copies of the exported package list.  This makes it
> relatively easy to decide what needs to be backleveled if non-obvious
> problems start to occur.
> 
> Paul's builds tend to use a small subset of the available packages -
> generally libc, libcx and pthreads.  You will probably find you need to
> keep these updated so that you can run Paul's current builds.
> 
> The corollary is that ANPM can install a large number of packages that you
> will never use because you are not using any of the applications that
> require these packages.
> 
> In general, you probably want to avoid packages from the experimental
> repository.  There are time when they are needed, but it's best to need
> them before installing them.
> 
> Steven

guys i can't know which DLL install with ANPM if the developer
do not specify the list in the readme (like it happened in the past)

yesterday when i removed \util\lib from libpath at the reboot
a lot of stuff was not starting anymore
i see that under \user\lib i didn't have stuff like
libc05.dll or libc066.dll etc. and gcc1.dll is dated 2015
while under \util\lib is dated 2021...

if i don't know what the software needs to install via ANPM
this is a trouble, not a solution, sorry

you say that i have a dll hell since i don't use ANPM
ok, well

after moving to it everything stop to start
i had to manually copy all DLLS requested by the softwares
since i don't know which package to install via ANPM
since it's not in the readme


sorry :)

massimo