From: "Steven Levine" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 1764417 for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:42:01 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([50.73.8.217]:55053 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1lQimk-00014E-2Z for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:41:50 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61]:44072) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1lQimZ-0000NU-2Y for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:41:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1616989299; bh=zf/fzKcqh7JOt6XbJGj2/ZFpHoBVKfVKBIrv Va9L7dY=; h=Received:From:Date:To:In-Reply-To:Subject:X-Mailer: Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; b=M+5ftb7FAVHzhDGCzVvPRs EFeNnJFmGSUJhMhPzJP4AmSvSVBBCaiSvOXf+iXjs5kmRf6wNHmC6MophqMgmyL4qtX X3zsJRZircVljnfIt5n0d8O+eMHnagW0K0t9p90+qFfZFq1aUWfOvkF9kk3k4aJy65p 8WPElzgTGib4jGSqaQDklXXNLTN5pOuxgvNJzXP++RX7J47ha+vvhnrvZso5xCcdxb8 wqKQnwwHg96lX1oBQ70/Mf8QhNCYUSdffrJ+LWJ5u2LmUgZiFC/veb0U+lanSNKPcVB D7O5lMDHCfCbuTfWOrkrD6lt6BOpu1A1DtrAb69Y5nIYXtj2eIpw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=cvhk4gsTQ474ADGlueiUu8UyuEwjyeiHNnWHqE1wTAyCKKZWDZGfkjAcxBTdq5K9LKsohFkaL4sLh2SIZCZaNeDVttkrp0h2wp9/d0tfm3cUauGoOLSKec4xQEDnqeTO4uFUX+3taJBZgR76n5AnM7CgB3LXVcofgFeOuMs4avtISEF/2+jQ+wyhWqMJlwDHsHALhwt+kaqI6SGzjsKkjK/sBKJqC21Wv5QTaGyuAOeHuGLeuNXaM4d6cg5JMnWafby3UdWyqJelhYUgYr1Yl7fvxPff+e3+AEGM4n9Q0zFfSYAP4eE8ngb2a/nTmvyYwhZZeoKRbIOtGI2Lspk/7g==; h=Received:From:Date:To:In-Reply-To:Subject:X-Mailer:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.193.254.250] (helo=slamain) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1lQimX-000DOZ-Li for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:41:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 20:15:07 -0700 To: "eCS ISP Mailing List" In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [eCS-ISP] links in the ticket X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v3.00.11.21 BETA/60 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: a1109158fca87577d780f4a490ca6956df8303b86ceddf557577baf408c74b053fa82bcbd6ebda89350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 108.193.254.250 In , on 03/28/21 at 11:05 PM, "Lewis G Rosenthal" said: Hi again, >Recall that the bootstrap check is only to ensure that a YUM/RPM >subsystem exists. This might the goal, but IMO, this is not what it actually does. It checks for the presence of two executables which may or may not run and which may or may not be in the \usr tree. I'm not advocating for any kind of repair option. The vast majority of ANPM installs run just fine and the current repair facilities seem to get the job done. What I might find useful, in rare cases, is a /BOO command line option to force a bootstrap install when the user has put the system into a state that manages to fool ANPM bootstrap check. In Massimo's case he corrected the platform selection and probably has installed enough packages correctly by this time so that there's no longer any real need to force a bootstrap install. >Perhaps the wiki needs a >new page concerning the nuclear option. The content is pretty much already there although some consolidation might help. What's missing IIRC is some discussion of when forcing a bootstrap is the best option and what the user should try before forcing the bootstrap. >I've really tried to avoid the >subject, but I guess there are times when the elephant gun approach is >simply the shortest distance between the two points (non-functional -> >functional). I understand, but is it a better solution to write it once or have to write it multiple times in support tickets or one some mailing list. In truth the reason you have been able to avoid documenting it in th wiki is that it is rarely required. For some reason it seems that user's need to reinstall the OS more often than they need to recover just the ANPM/rpm/yum controlled content. Steven -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Steven Levine" Warp/DIY/BlueLion etc. www.scoug.com www.arcanoae.com www.warpcave.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------