From: "Roderick Klein" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 2020621 for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:25:41 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([50.73.8.217]:43513 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1ltbAJ-0004EN-0Q for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:25:31 -0400 Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net ([194.109.24.26]:58131) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1ltbAB-0006W7-22 for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:25:23 -0400 Received: from cust-d6f8d21c ([IPv6:fc0c:c133:180c:ce18:600b:879d:83bb:499c]) by smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net with ESMTPA id tbA9lkBFFhg8ZtbAAlS2Sv; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:25:22 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xs4all.nl; s=s2; t=1623871522; bh=SLP3CrUeeK/404DilIzx1qmpEj2svHTRhNCi7RJ8LQ0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:From: Subject; b=wxwQ81NRS/t3A5EtlCa/PhzNssGuuD+CrjoJSpsNak9CptmeY1OHqG7osJ4K13wIs ydC4VdXwZvrEEVftlG9Do2wkgQoFZCa5LaNwUauOmyjbAoTwLKIlYK85FXomZgbwUY cmTiyR79bdvTLHZ6aIat+jvEBy7lEcAPKlfkMLcut85WkeZNgYkQvFDNxQXTSeeX8f 5EiJZvnMRHSRin/QjwuK3PDbBZB5AOHIgCTGZEbqwmHcf1ddU7BspLjjHNEhPn4WTG gmq/LacHpHJB4hppTmRxtPsb32JdB8tT6fHTPLO0Az3ekz3UcNI9ySbms06FXOq34j MnYBDrNxtCOfg== Message-ID: <60CA5E30.8060201@xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 21:25:20 +0100 Reply-To: roderickklein@xs4all.nl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eCS ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: [eCS-ISP] Injoy FW 4.2.2 and download datarates (connection speed) the eternal mistery :) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfHmtHtsVY6PdwKdwV04spAFYDwqoo40PGifvRTk+dAO4rAs6HJUoS90L8GXTAAuwQ2QnSn3tZBMN75pmY65QMF9GQHpfhLPfHn6DJnS88PwgJhJUUm3A IQRJvdyp2TXC9Fa41lR5lad5duzAmDBH5vwPyGvigbV3ijWCoYFrNCtvB5Sp/6AhVqKTQKdnRGUgKERFNcMnpvTyjzHAB7WH2mo= On 16-06-21 09:11, Massimo S. wrote: > > > Il 16/06/2021 02:40, Roderick Klein ha scritto: >> On 14-06-21 08:59, Massimo S. wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> in the eternal mistery of this topic with no help or support from the >>> company >>> the firewall (as default internet gateway) with Intermediary section >>> values of default >>> >>> Assemble packets: ON >>> MTU: 1500 >>> MSS Auto Adjust: disabled >>> >>> if you do a speed test it say you have a 20Megabit connection while you >>> have a 100Mb FTTC >>> >>> playing with these parameters the situation improve >>> (e.g. giving 1492 as MTU and playing with MSS) >>> >>> on an FTTC (100Mbit/sec full granted) i'm able even to raise downloads >>> data-rate >>> from 2 MegaBytes/sec to 9MegaBytes/sec, anyway the upstreaming bandwidth >>> it's not >>> so much good and i'd like to improve it >>> >>> even using speedguite.net tcp analyzer >>> >>> i'm not able to improve further the performances (download/upload >>> datarate) >>> and i get no support at all from the sw house, ticket not answered >>> etc... >> >> Has this simply not been a long standing issue that the performance of >> the Injoy firewall, where the systems is connected to a fast internet >> connections lags behind ? >> >>> playin with RWIN size in inetcfg.ini it seems not to improve too much >>> things >>> >>> >>> while i can survive with this in my office, i still have aound some >>> Injoy FW >>> at customers's places and internet speed improvement is giving me some >>> issue >>> >>> anyone has experience with IJ FW and a 100Megabit/sec FTTC connection >>> using INJOY FW as default lan gateway? >> >> I am starting to get the impression this is a a current, please note >> thst word *current*, limitation in fxwrap.sys. >> >> Roderick > > do you mean that there could be udpates that fix the issue? > or V5 will fix the issue? I do not know when and how it can fixed. What does seem to be the case is that the Injoy Firewall can not provide high threwput, we need on modern fiber optic lines. I get the impression the filtering logic runs at user level in OS/2 (RING 3 cpu level) and the fxwrap driver runs at kernel 0 (ring 0). I get the impression every TCP/IP packets has to send from rin0 to ring 3 and back to ring 0. This consumes a lot of CPU time if this is correct. The IBM OS/2 firewall, like on Linux is ring 0 driver. Where the packet filtering is done at kernel level directly. This provides a great perfomance gain. But that IBM filter driver can of course not used by the Injoy Firewall. Note that make such changes, if that would help is a lot lot of work! Right now I get the impression the guys at BWW are extremely busy surviving and working on getting the new Otter Browser beta out the door. Roderick Roderick