From: "Al Savage" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 297444 for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:49:47 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.201] (port=47651 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1iv8iI-0007QE-2G for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:50:10 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.com ([74.208.4.200]:58855) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1iv8dP-0003rG-0J for ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:45:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mail.com; s=dbd5af2cbaf7; t=1579909506; bh=eprN/FbOpyrzXEJDxTdbi/av4MkIdHogP/pOOPVSvDQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=PZyMd8LPoDe6KpDWlNeD/lsYpUKVNs1f0N0wsTLJSb1+NuqZ9jomAHzrchFB9jkHD bf148woitHGOAbQKUoxb41kFgEPtFNCHhxwFYK3/kdbsNpdrbl41Iskch4CvBwB7zx 4jVaj66gmCLn+IlG6oRSmEy8rdLaLW0Ry+B8YtIY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 214d933f-fd2f-45c7-a636-f5d79ae31a79 Received: from [192.168.0.12] ([66.234.218.43]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus002 [74.208.5.15]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MePHd-1jFJQE3rm3-00QBHV for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 00:45:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [eCS-ISP] GoDaddy DDNS To: eCS ISP Mailing List References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:45:05 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------70E1735D8A85679A53B8614A" Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:m3hT28pejr4yeHhmQ+7WjiQw9tBTcPYLF2v9BLyCWJP6zaR/+My IWVvSA1/AesHFj2CGzBR5ZIhp9xGF6HsIr01ir5LengpIM6iOzIoMY1SoRCtn2JEy98i2sF i8XX2DhM1M2mjFnnM2ZvM5JEDMO+1A6IINDYlIx3rQMdbkByh2X2fHDFZ1YgpkL+MeUlrjw P4gWOgxM8SrcV0F64kd6Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Es86tY4OKZo=:NnXa8AlA2XuQBAeoG65Kdx QjSo6ZTrqtvROeD7TPMfQ+nRyYnVx9B5agL3myhBB05swX1mKSIsfGxpDAR0L9LzBr7ExXjml Q8xQwKJ3kOClbvOrbFUuVdLbtPaLQqhbrZQcxBSUyp8Xmr1gSS5fUak1OWLtCGvW1XygdPMPI Elxak4Gv/p/G11AmFNxSg2lAknqKAQEV1DpcDu4t9r6Ul3h8ZpJ/Pi3t+bYS6ydcwOK5HUQfm cGIg5Qly1ufHGSgZ5yR6KRbfWmgzDkhJ4xQOYSd/oM/5qdH8UOwf61mtvHQgK9W+BlpUNzBiH ZJbcji5y4bCd9Lhd6ogqI6J8Yr8mbpS1R3aUb+BQB8gqjWT3F7Tr4HA+QoWozQwR6Xxk9M5h+ vLpJ6NY5BAML5yiz8I3kjEJyw/rGEW27ANz82HYg9ITrphMuujvqRv6d8vfqKxV4DnMGh7+U5 S3rebUbVWAz2oJFDINZv366eYqEaRBk1zLtpnZ7Z3nZbd1TVMzPSfJ0ObdTaxeJh3tc3alft2 trVenwwLSvFO8CIKsUbha158d5HMLf5sgb9Yx6bvT7TIAxazcGAeoxG4qTWGL4D5jgqNK4tFg 8bB/XvEzgnSTrqs37lgjOR4HYpAV5znBZaVyqZHjnpeorNQawMrTZKSanewvgCFe8oHSLHN1o B92EY4j3buHl6lEVYWW4OoB2cmK4BWjFiu7xs1D90QbiVwIAWy+FBZEsGCQJ792peFwrthP01 bw15TGpFyx4Ahp5xdkn7IvSMWZyNgeeft7yli67STMqlNOinAlLhccGpzh97pMzeMlOm9fgku KGN0NAFDC8n/0Q9zcWYBxRe4A0Q7RPcRMsxFJ27vL+UNZmiAhDD9oASBiTbDbn9SlFb0NBv99 qvkG1cbyPUBiCeQUgyElIX8kVGCu8NwcvUgxySU+JnoZdtDvtcTWBNTLMRUOuFfDq1QnqggdE W1f1UcC+KMXvL8Dof+48eClG3zkbymiO7uTMFN2l2bCZhpJS5efjdOgGbIjERKBnN9Ffgdmfm K1O7l8b9B3N3Z2+MhJyk0vjzlg1+PiB0/xGz1epPiCoNRkd7TJ+siimXrXZuSTupVJFunJmjX 7YADc8E9uhZluqrQrvC890ybVf1Fh1sV7cF9T6vfBIFwzXH8cU2rxxnOdNA3dc0VJGZyp0yOo qzH7Y2+zLsXHQrwOwp6gUcvCCSRKo9sxazeyvZ3te7vC/GcKrxaacqyHKXYImTExUwU9qDyEi lGuiiDTS8Ary7wqgU This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------70E1735D8A85679A53B8614A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/24/20 2:32 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: > Hi, guys... > > On 01/24/20 02:39 pm, Andy Willis wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 1:19 PM Al Savage > > wrote: >> >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Is what you're discussing some variation of what I'm= doing with >> $15/year >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dyn.com and a free Debian IP update= r client?=C2=A0 Or >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 something else? >> >> Sounds like the same thing.=C2=A0 I've not needed it before but knew Le= wis >> now is a reseller for godaddy and if I am going to buy a service, I >> figured to check that route first.=C2=A0 I want my router to do it as i= t >> will handle it at each IP change. >> > > Al: Yes, exactly. Like Max, I also used your link to SSL Labs, and found I was overdue to remove TLSv1.0 & 1.1: done.=C2=A0 Since I use LE, that required commenting/pasting in two files instead of one.=C2=A0 TG for the internet,= I didn't have to search long to find that fix. Also my memory of what I've been paying dyn for DDNS was off by nine years: I last paid $15/yr. in 2011; today, it's almost $50/yr. Invoice Date Description=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Amount 717985=C2=A0 June 14, 2008 9:40:48 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Account Upgrade (1 Year)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 $11.50 870428=C2=A0 March 16, 2009 8:38:07 PM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= Account Upgrade Renewal (1 Year)=C2=A0 $11.50 1127610 March 17, 2010 8:18:21 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dyna= mic DNS Pro Renewal (1 Year)=C2=A0 $15.00 1499587 March 14, 2011 11:43:18 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dynamic D= NS Pro Renewal (1 year)=C2=A0 $15.00 2443413 May 07, 2012 11:04:57 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (1 year)=C2=A0 $40.00 4330372 December 26, 2013 4:13:11 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dynamic DNS Pro Ren= ewal (2 years) $40.00 7633107 June 10, 2016 8:27:58 PM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (2 years) $72.00 9450472 June 10, 2018 8:09:13 PM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (2 years) $99.00 > The problem with GoDaddy, then, is that nobody, but nobody has a > packaged updater script either *in* a broadband router device or as > part of a configurable updater for Java or whatever (think INADYN). Do you mean: no updater script *for GoDaddy's DDNS*? I recently flashed my router to dd-wrt, and while its DDNS wiki entry doesn't list GoDaddy explicitly, it does offer a "Custom" selection that looks reasonably flexible. https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Dynamic_DNS I suppose I should use dd-wrt's facility to perform the IP updates to dyn, but what's configured now works, and I'll likely leave it alone until it doesn't. dd-wrt is wildly better than the OEM's firmware, in my case.=C2=A0 After configuration, I promptly hit up eBay and procured a backup router, and when it arrived I cloned the first router's config to it, so I can swap out the whole shebang if my primary router ever becomes dodgy. For a home/hobby setup, this is plenty. > GoDaddy, however, does provide an API for making changes . . . If GoDaddy can accept IP updates via a URL, it appears that ww-drt can facilitate . . . but I'm not claiming I've actually thoroughly read the dd-wrt docs or anything.=C2=A0 I don't live this technology, like you guys= do. > Also, Dyn's standard DNS service doesn't even support CAA records, and > these are now (since 2017 or so) considered *required* for any domain > to pass muster. GoDaddy actually *does* support CAA records and it's > entirely free if your domain is registered either through GoDaddy I have "Pro" (I think I had too many domains to use Std. anymore), but I just spent a fruitless ten minutes trying to determine the differences between Std. & Pro, and from what I can see, there is no Std. pkg. these days: it's all Pro, and at the rate I'm currently paying. SSL Labs confirms no CAA for my domains.=C2=A0 Well, I guess my sites don'= t pass muster in 2019, but I can't say I'm terribly stressed about it.=C2=A0 These days, I barely pay any attention to them, unless someone emails with a complaint, which is darned rare.=C2=A0 If a CA issues my cert to someone else, I guess I'll deal with the situation then. > Full disclaimer: GoDaddy's DNS *has* had issues in the past and is > nowhere near the robust implementation of Dyn. That said, again, it's > free, and sometimes, free is pretty good. Yeah, at $50/year, maybe I'd be tempted to spend a couple of hours moving to a robust, free solution, but I won't, because it's not broken enough to motivate me these days. =2D- Regards, Al Savage --------------70E1735D8A85679A53B8614A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/24/20 2:32 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
Hi, guys...

On 01/24/20 02:39 pm, Andy Willis wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 1:19 PM Al Savage <ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com <mailto:ecs-isp@2rosenthals.com>> wrote:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Is what you're discussing some variation of wha= t I'm doing with $15/year
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dyn.com <http://dyn.com> and a free Debian IP update= r client?=C2=A0 Or
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 something else?

Sounds like the same thing.=C2=A0 I've not needed it before but kn= ew Lewis now is a reseller for godaddy and if I am going to buy a service, I figured to check that route first.=C2=A0 I want my rout= er to do it as it will handle it at each IP change.


Al: Yes, exactly.

Like Max, I also used your link to SSL Labs, and found I was overdue to remove TLSv1.0 & 1.1: done.=C2=A0 Since I use LE, that required commenting/pasting in two files instead of one.=C2=A0 TG for the internet, I didn't have to search long to find that fix.

Also my memory of what I've been paying dyn for DDNS was off by nine years: I last paid $15/yr. in 2011; today, it's almost $50/yr.

Invoice Date=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Description=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Amount =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0
717985=C2=A0 June 14, 2008 9:40:48 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Account Upgrade (1 Year)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 $11= .50
870428=C2=A0 March 16, 2009 8:38:07 PM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Account Upgrade Renewal (1 Year)=C2=A0 $11.50
1127610 March 17, 2010 8:18:21 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (1 Year)=C2=A0 $15.00
1499587 March 14, 2011 11:43:18 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (1 year)=C2=A0 $15.00
2443413 May 07, 2012 11:04:57 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (1 year)=C2=A0 $40.00
4330372 December 26, 2013 4:13:11 AM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dyna= mic DNS Pro Renewal (2 years) $40.00
7633107 June 10, 2016 8:27:58 PM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (2 years) $72.00
9450472 June 10, 2018 8:09:13 PM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dynamic DNS Pro Renewal (2 years) $99.00

The problem with GoDaddy, then, is that nobody, but nobody has a packaged updater script either *in* a broadband router device or as part of a configurable updater for Java or whatever (think INADYN).

Do you mean: no updater script *for GoDaddy's DDNS*?

I recently flashed my router to dd-wrt, and while its DDNS wiki entry doesn't list GoDaddy explicitly, it does offer a "Custom" selection that looks reasonably flexible.

https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Dynamic_DN= S

I suppose I should use dd-wrt's facility to perform the IP updates to dyn, but what's configured now works, and I'll likely leave it alone until it doesn't.

dd-wrt is wildly better than the OEM's firmware, in my case.=C2=A0 Aft= er configuration, I promptly hit up eBay and procured a backup router, and when it arrived I cloned the first router's config to it, so I can swap out the whole shebang if my primary router ever becomes dodgy.

For a home/hobby setup, this is plenty.

GoD= addy, however, does provide an API for making changes . . .

If GoDaddy can accept IP updates via a URL, it appears that ww-drt can facilitate . . . but I'm not claiming I've actually thoroughly read the dd-wrt docs or anything.=C2=A0 I don't live this technology, like you guys do.

Als= o, Dyn's standard DNS service doesn't even support CAA records, and these are now (since 2017 or so) considered *required* for any domain to pass muster. GoDaddy actually *does* support CAA records and it's entirely free if your domain is registered either through GoDaddy

I have "Pro" (I think I had too many domains to use Std. anymore), but I just spent a fruitless ten minutes trying to determine the differences between Std. & Pro, and from what I can see, there is no Std. pkg. these days: it's all Pro, and at the rate I'm currently paying.

SSL Labs confirms no CAA for my domains.=C2=A0 Well, I guess my sites don't pass muster in 2019, but I can't say I'm terribly stressed about it.=C2=A0 These days, I barely pay any attention to them, unless someone emails with a complaint, which is darned rare.=C2=A0 If a CA issues my cert to someone else, I guess I'll deal with the situation then.

Ful= l disclaimer: GoDaddy's DNS *has* had issues in the past and is nowhere near the robust implementation of Dyn. That said, again, it's free, and sometimes, free is pretty good.

Yeah, at $50/year, maybe I'd be tempted to spend a couple of hours moving to a robust, free solution, but I won't, because it's not broken enough to motivate me these days.

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Regards,
Al Savage
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