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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:35:52 -0600
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Subject: Re: [eCS T60/T61] question about installing OS/2 and Ubuntu ona T61p
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Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:17:47 -0400 (EDT)
>  "Julian Thomas" <ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:31:03 +0100 Gerry Prosser wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I recommend using Boot Manager and GRUB, but contrary to what Lewis
>>> has said, I would NOT put GRUB in the /boot partition. That way seems
>>> to lead to disaster and inability to boot the ECS installation CD let
>>> alone ECS itself, just as Andy says. Don't even bother creating a
>>> /boot partition.
>>
>> Not sure what the problem is with that.
>>>
>>> Do the partitioning with eCS and install Boot Manager and then eCS.
>>> Then install Ubuntu and put GRUB into the root partition. 
>>
>> I did this on a machine with Centos (not Ubuntu) and put grub in 
>> /boot (a separate partition). It all works very nicely.  Used DFSee 
>> to partition, installed XP, boot manager, eCS, and Centos.
>>
> Indeed, Julian. Perhaps it is distro-specific? In my experience, I can 
> typically put GRUB anywhere *except* the MBR, as long as it can find 
> grub.conf (which of course, is GRUB's Achilles' Heel: the fact that it 
> must rely upon a configuration file located elsewhere in the 
> filesystem(s), vs BM's more compact approach).
>
> Currently on my test system (not a T61, BTW), the only distros which 
> are giving me boot problems are SLES 9 and OpenSolaris. OES2/Linux 
> seems happy (based on SLES 10), openSuSE 11 seems fine (still getting 
> used to that KDE 4 stuff, but that's a matter for a different list!), 
> and CentOS 4 seems okay. Other OSes on the box include W2K, XP, and of 
> course, eCS 2.0 RC6.
>
> I've never had the opportunity to play with Ubuntu or Kubuntu, so 
> perhaps there's some difference between your version and Gerry's. As I 
> said before, I'm mainly a SuSE guy these days - when it comes to *nix, 
> at least - and I was speaking from that experience.
>
> Cheers/2, all.
>
SuSE installed Grub fine in the Ubuntu partition as Debian did.  For 
Ubuntu I had it throw an error (don't recall what it was but I had it 
happen at each install).  I could force the Grub install but then it 
wouldn't boot Ubuntu (eCS was fine at this point).  Finally after 
reading about many issues with Ubuntu and Grub installation I decided to 
try creating its own partition which worked out well.  Unfortunately, it 
was at this stage that eCS quit working.  I then got to thinking and hid 
partitions via dfsee from eCS and now it is booting fine.  I know I hid 
/grub, I don't recall if I also hid the other Ubuntu partitions.
Ubuntu partitions here... /, /swap, /grub.  I've always read that having 
/home and such on different partitions was a good thing but the default 
of the installations appeared to not be doing it and figured I had no 
idea how big I should set anything to so chose the single partition with 
a separate swap (which it either required or at least did encourage 
during the install of Debian - which was the first I installed and never 
removed the /swap).  The /grub was only because I could not get grub to 
install in /,