From: "John Poltorak" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2028945 for ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:20:35 -0500 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([162.83.95.194] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1NU81G-0005S8-TU for ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:20:35 -0500 Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com ([209.85.223.178]:50125) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NU819-0000ZG-1E for ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:20:23 -0500 Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so14951651iwn.23 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:20:21 -0800 (PST) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4B4A6EC7.0138,ss=1,fgs=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Rw7l51c/ZFX9kfu/R940WceX+/g3Mf85IDaMrr1eDgE=; b=IgDQWqHuI+6E+X9mB9LEZ3pmLHzawPUeEE/CWYs2y7RPiFUAIAm3YCvIJ3+aB010gW oo+Dp/SxBEbHvRWmRDkumm0dplyvw+twQMtGHvvNk/o8sFeF2zF95Wq/Y+Zn/zr4rd2w 3Dy1UkRdT9feqM8IyJFXwHIvMSpIf2FBCL1xA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CuoqtgsY34JUDhGlDNkzO0WIHdXGl8gPv7y1SxtaIrERBqUK3+G6boOq4NDvUbwbat YNCGHHMTBavFNZulyuGOpDW+a6wuCU4jCdHahjvy4lwHbE0+0WShWFAf8n+lMRW76CB4 laICjn0+Gs31Eeor0fb6Uh5eSl28FqX/7MmCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.2 with SMTP id f2mr4954433ibv.23.1263169221369; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:20:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:20:21 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [eCS T60/T61] OT: Re: [eCS T60/T61] Thinkpad 600 (was: [eCS T60/T61] Thinkpad 600) To: "eCS ThinkPad T60/61 Mailing List" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c0616bb2091047cd880a2 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: 1.0 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name --0016e64c0616bb2091047cd880a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Lewis, It's like meeting an old friend! I haven't been hacking OS/2 for a few years, but recently had a need to set up a music system in a bar and thought my old Thinkpad 600 should do the trick so installed Warp CP2 hoping that everything would work fine but had forgotten what a nightmare audio drivers can be on OS/2 and can't get any sound out of my laptop - there seem to be too many options available and different websites tell me I have different audio chipset. Is there any way to actually tell what I do have installed? As for USB - I've never had this working on OS/2 - I've followed numerous guides but just can't get the hang of it. All I want is to access a 2GB USB stick which has a few MP3s on it but there seem to be sooooo many USB-related drivers in config.sys I've looked at this link http://www.os2warp.be/index2.php?name=usbreview but I have no idea if my USB subsystem is EHCI, OHCI or UHCI and don't know whether I should expect things to work eventually. Things were never simple on OS/2... -- John On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: > Hi, John! > > On 01/09/10 04:38 am, John Poltorak thus wrote : > >> I'm really pleased to have come across this list being an old OS/2 user - >> thought no one used it any more... >> >> It is *so* good to see that you're still around and still hacking OS/2, > John. I'd noticed your absence on the usual lists for sometime, and was a > bit concerned that you had suffered some health issues or some such... > >> Is it an appropriate place to ask questions about Thinkpad 600's? I have a >> couple which are over 10 years old which I want to use primarily as MP3 >> players, but can't get sound to work and would also like to know if there is >> any chance of using a 4GB pen drive with them. >> >> Actually, this list is mainly for the newer models which share much of > the same ACPI, HDA, and networking issues. There are a few of us here who > have had experience with machines of the 600's vintage, but truthfully, > you're likely to get a better response on the notebook2 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nb2discuss/) or eCS Technical ( > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eCS-Technical/) lists on Yahoo, > methinks. > > That said, as traffic here has been light, I don't think any of us would > mind a little OT discussion. > > First issue: Sound on the 600. Which driver are you using? As the 600 has > fairly good OS/2 support, I would probably opt for the driver from IBM: > > > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=BBOD-3HJL6Y > > (The device Driver Matrix for the 600 series is here, BTW: > > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DSHY-3TLQ2L > > Next issue: 4GB pen drive should be no problem. I use a 4GB Sandisk Cruzer > as my "regular" stick; there are other makes & models which perform better. > This has been rather well discussed on the DFSee list: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/ . Essentially, as OS/2 > is limited to FAT16 for large floppy devices, you'll want to configure the > stick as a removable hard drive (i.e., put a partition table on it with at > leats one partition). If you want to exchange data with Window systems, the > FAT32 driver is probably the best way to go, but if you'll only be using it > for OS/2/eCS, then whatever suits (HPFS or JFS) should be fine. If you do > decide to use FAT32, you can do the whole setup with DFSee under OS/2, > including formatting the stick, which is quite handy. > > HTH > > GL > > -- > Lewis > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE > Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC www.2rosenthals.com > Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com > follow my IT blog www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > Send administrative queries to > To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and > reply to the confirmation email. > Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com > > This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC > P.O. 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Hi Lewis,

It's like meeting an old fr= iend!

I haven't been hacking OS/2 for a few ye= ars, but recently had a need to set up a music system in a bar and thought = my old Thinkpad 600 should do the trick so installed Warp CP2 hoping that e= verything would work fine but had forgotten what a nightmare audio drivers = can be on OS/2 and can't get any sound out of my laptop - there seem to= be too many options available and different websites tell me I have differ= ent audio chipset. Is there any way to actually tell what I do have install= ed?

As for USB - I've never had this working on OS/2 - = I've followed numerous guides but just can't get the hang of it. Al= l I want is to =A0access a 2GB USB stick which has a few MP3s on it but the= re seem to be sooooo many USB-related drivers in config.sys

I've looked at this link=A0

http://www.= os2warp.be/index2.php?name=3Dusbreview

but= I have no idea if my USB subsystem is EHCI, OHCI or UHCI and don't kno= w whether I should expect things to work eventually.

Things were never simple on OS/2...


--
John

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal <ecs-t6x@2= rosenthals.com> wrote:
Hi, John!

On 01/09/10 04:38 am, John Poltorak thus wrote :
I'm really pleased to have come across this list being an old OS/2 user= - thought no one used it any more...

It is *so* good to see that you're still around and still hacking OS/2,= John. I'd noticed your absence on the usual lists for sometime, and wa= s a bit concerned that you had suffered some health issues or some such...<= br>
Is it an appropriate place to ask questions about Thinkpad 600's? I hav= e a couple which are over 10 years old which I want to use primarily as MP3= players, but can't get sound to work and would also like to know if th= ere is any chance of using a 4GB pen drive with them.

Actually, this list is mainly for the newer models which share much of the = same ACPI, HDA, and networking issues. There are a few of us here who have = had experience with machines of the 600's vintage, but truthfully, you&= #39;re likely to get a better response on the notebook2 http://groups.yahoo.co= m/group/nb2discuss/) or eCS Technical (http://tech.groups.yahoo.co= m/group/eCS-Technical/) lists on Yahoo, methinks.

That said, as traffic here has been light, I don't think any of us woul= d mind a little OT discussion.

First issue: Sound on the 600. Which driver are you using? As the 600 has f= airly good OS/2 support, I would probably opt for the driver from IBM:

http://www-307.ibm.c= om/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=3Dlenovo&lndocid=3DBBOD-3H= JL6Y

(The device Driver Matrix for the 600 series is here, BTW:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.ws= s/document.do?lndocid=3DDSHY-3TLQ2L

Next issue: 4GB pen drive should be no problem. I use a 4GB Sandisk Cruzer = as my "regular" stick; there are other makes & models which p= erform better. This has been rather well discussed on the DFSee list: = http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/ . Essentially, as OS/= 2 is limited to FAT16 for large floppy devices, you'll want to configur= e the stick as a removable hard drive (i.e., put a partition table on it wi= th at leats one partition). If you want to exchange data with Window system= s, the FAT32 driver is probably the best way to go, but if you'll only = be using it for OS/2/eCS, then whatever suits (HPFS or JFS) should be fine.= If you do decide to use FAT32, you can do the whole setup with DFSee under= OS/2, including formatting the stick, which is quite handy.

HTH

GL

--
Lewis
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