From: "Jon" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2354582 for ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:21:27 -0400 Received-SPF: none (secmgr-ny.randr: 207.228.42.15 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of seadog.reno.nv.us) client-ip=207.228.42.15; envelope-from=jharrison@seadog.reno.nv.us; helo=pop1.greatbasin.net; Received: from pop1.greatbasin.net ([207.228.42.15]) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0T8I-0007tq-74 for ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:21:27 -0400 Received: from DP6550.seadog.reno.nv.us (seadog.reno.nv.us [216.82.144.188]) (authenticated bits=0) by pop1.greatbasin.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3A5LFiA031818 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 22:21:16 -0700 Received: from tyan@seadog.reno.nv.us (TYAN [192.168.1.35]) by DP6550.seadog.reno.nv.us (Weasel v1.78) for ; 09 Apr 2010 22:21:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000.d05a0700ca0ac04b.020@seadog.reno.nv.us> To: "eCS ThinkPad T60/61 Mailing List" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:21:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.07 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.07.12.1509) X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail (Alpha 2) 3.07.12.1509 for OS/2 Warp 4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [eCS T60/T61] T61 dead battery On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:27:12 -0400 Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: Lewis: Following up on my query: >A good link for you: > >http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm Thanks for the link, some good advise there that I was unaware of. >> By booting into XP I find that it is detected as a dead battery. I al= so discovered that there is a >> power option app that allows the user to perform maintenance tasks on = the battery to help it >> maintain a longer life. > >While there are only a handful of manufacturers of the various cells >(Sanyo, SONY, Panasonic, Hitachi=3F, and a couple more which escape me, = >now), the electronics in the battery are really the only difference >between the branded ones and the aftermarket ones, AFAIK. > As a followup, I purchased a battery online from a 3rd party dealer. It'= s a Sanyo, as was my original. It cost about 45% less than a Lenovo battery. And, under XP t= he power app (as well as thinkvantage message center) give me alarms and warning messages that my = battery is not authenic. What a PITA, I had to disabled that stuff and downloaded a 3rd party batt= ery meter. And now the power app will no longer perform "battery maintenance tasks" = to help extend the life of the battery. So your comment that "the electronics in the battery...." i= s more important than when I first read it. So, for lurkers, if you have a T61 you may want to balance the cost savin= gs of a 3rd party battery against the loss of Lenovo's thinkvantage battery maintenance feature. Jon