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???:	"Tim Stephen" <ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com>	?? ???? ?????????
??:	Re: [eCS T60/T61] T410: Lenovo's Thoughtful ThinkPad Is a Near-Perfect Machine
??:	Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:16:14 -0400 (EDT)
??:	"eCS ThinkPad T60/61 Mailing List" <ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com>

I think there is a tn3270 client for os/2. I've never used it but perhaps you have and it is not up to your requirements. But just in case you didn't know, I think there is one. Tim On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:38:16 -0400 (EDT), Carl Gehr wrote: >On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:46:34 -0700, Neil Waldhauer wrote: > >>On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:44:36 -0400 (EDT), "Carl Gehr" <ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com> >>wrote: >> >>> I don't have time, but it would be interesting if someone >>> could investigate the usual components that cause eCS to >>> have problems and report on how likely eCS is to run on >>> this TPad T410. >> >>Did your T60 ever work? Nothing beyond a T60 will work as well. Did you notice >>that the T60 is slower than older machines? >> >>If you can live with the T410 being slower than T60, and no WiFi, then it's >>probably OK. No one has tried one, yet. It will run extra hot, but thats why >>you have a warranty. >> >>It looks like improvements to ACPI to support the T60 are now under way. That >>will probably improve things for newer laptops in a year or so. > >The only hardware on my T60 that does not work is the built-in modem. >Everything else works. > >Maybe it does not work as well as I'd like [e.g., Audio], but it does >work. > >The major issues I have are problems with eCS and what it supports, or >more accurately does NOT SUPPORT. e.g., >* No current FLASH >* No current Adobe Acrobat Reader >* While not an eCS issue, there is no good TN3270 emulator > for eCS. If you don't use IBM z/OS or z/VM mainframe, > this is not an issue for you. But, again, it is a > problem with the SOFTWARE that is available, not with > the T60. >ALL of these issues exist for eCS users even if you are using >a T2x or whatever. > >As far as speed, maybe I'm just not as impatient as you. I could get >faster CPUs, but that would only mean I'll 'wait faster' for the >network or other I/O. > >Now, having said all this, I use the TPad for business and software >development. I don't play games or such. This is a business tool, not >a toy. > >I should also mention that my wife has a relatively new custom-built >for eCS desktop/tower system. The above issues exist for that system >also. Actually, that system has even more issues in that I've never >been able to get that system to recognize her HP Scanner that worked >fine on an older tower. Likewise, the LaserJet printer that was >connected via a parallel adapter does not work with the Parallel-to-USB >connector that DOES work with my T60. > >Sorry, but my issue is with eCS not with the T60. Maybe if there were >not so much effort devoted to T2x support they could spend time on >newer models. > >If I did not have things that I do for my business that cannot easily >be migrated to Linux [e.g., a decent TN3270 emulator - different issues >than the eCS problems], I probably would not still be on eCS. So, I'm >rather stuck at this point. > >Just my experience. YMMV, and I guess clearly does. >-- >Carl > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list <ecs-t6x@2rosenthals.com>. >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <ecs-t6x-off@2rosenthals.com> >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <ecs-t6x-digest@2rosenthals.com> >To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <ecs-t6x-index@2rosenthals.com> >Send administrative queries to <ecs-t6x-request@2rosenthals.com> >To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: <ecs-t6x-on@2rosenthals.com> and reply to the confirmation email. >Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com > >This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC >P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- >electronic communications related to content >contained in these messages should be directed >to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >

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