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[75.158.37.13]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v13sm715199pjr.12.2020.10.01.13.49.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002.b8c90a00da40765f.035@telus.net> To: "lSwitcher Developers Mailing List" Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:49:30 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: "Doug Bissett" In-Reply-To: References: Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.25 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-CA; i386; ver 3.25.00.1990) X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail (Beta 2) 3.25.00.1990 for OS/2 Warp 4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lswitcher-dev] lSwitcher-2-92-0-RC_12.wpi On 2020-10-01, at 11:35:22, Andy Willis wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 22:19 Doug Bissett > wrote: > > > On 2020-09-30, at 20:26:51, Gregg Young wrote: > > > > > > >>Having seen r13b, I think I concur with Lewis: I'd prefer a single > > > >>'Close' lSwitcher menu entry for folders in the taskbar (since only > > > >>that makes sense), but for programs, and if possible, I'd rather have a > > > >>'Close' submenu with the different methods. I think Dos/Sigkill look a > > > >>bit daunting, not being normal words and that, and it would be better > > > >>if at least non-tech-savvy people can tell right away they're just > > > >>modes of closing a task. > > > >> > > > > > > > >Exactly. > > > > > > I will look at fixing this. Last change for 2.92. Thanks > > > > Personally, I would prefer to not see Dos/Sigkill in something like > > lSwitcher. If a normal close (or "quit", if somebody thinks that is > > actually necessary) won't do the job, they probably should be using > > CADH or TOP to do it. In fact, I don't see a need to have "close" or > > "quit" either. Click the entry, to surface the program, then close, or > > quit, as desired (or is that too complicated?). > > > > Sometimes, more features are just too much, and they often cause > > unexpected problems. > > > > Just my C$.03... > > > > I use sig-kill from lswitcher quite often. Yeah, but you know what it is. I always use the lSwitcher widget, which has a desktop icon, on the left end. If I hold Ctrl, and click that icon, it lists the running processes, and clicking one of them results in an option to kill it. Even that is probably too easy to do. I would consider Dos/Sigkill to be an advanced procedure, which should not be in a general user menu. -- **************************** From Doug Bissett's ArcaOS system dougb007 at telus.net **************************** ... You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.