Mailing List Archived Message #147

From: "Alfredo Fernández Díaz" <> Full Headers
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Subject: Re: [lswitcher-dev] lSwitcher-2-93-0-RC_1.wpi
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:43:21 +0100
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On 20/11/23 22:10, Gregg Young wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:54:14 +0100 Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote:


On 20/11/22 00:28, Gregg Young wrote:
[...] Hopefully fixed the flaky font loading in dialogues and menus
that use non-codepage 850 codepages. I also at attempted to fix some
bad string spacing/layout in the dialogs.

Whatever you did seems to affect my English and Spanish VPC test systems
too -- and both use CP850. The 2.92 settings dialog displayed Russian,
Spanish and Czech characters just fine with the default system font
settings. 2.93 uses an ugly serif font for no reason apparently. See

The global page isn't codepage 850. It is codepage 1207

Understood, my bad.

and the only difference between 2.92 and 2.93 for that page is that the
Times New Roman MT 30 font is 9 point instead of 10.

Maybe in theory, but I think the screenshots I sent show something different:

"Times New Roman MT 30" is a serif font, but the one displayed in the 2.92 screenshots is clearly sans-serif (compare with the 2.93 image). Also, I just opened a test system, and in the palette font I can select "Times New Roman MT 30" at 8 or 10, but *not* 9 points.

While I don't like the
font it is the only font that ships with OS/2 that has all the required glyphs.

The font in the 2.92 screenshots, the default on ArcaOS, seems to have them all. I just tested 2.92 on my working system, though (still running 2.71) and I see funny characters, so that one is not present here. Maybe some sort of fallback mechanism could be used so the ugly-looking MT 30 (especially as it is inconsistent with the rest of the dialog) is only used if the other one is not available?

Another alternative might be to resort to using the Unicode font for the drop-down list only, since it is the only component where several languages are used at the same time and it is actually necessary. I can drop fonts on it leaving the rest of the dialog unaffected, so this shouldn't be impossible to do programmatically.

Also, I don't know whether your font code tweaking should fix the last
problem with the PM popup text -- it still looks bad here.

This is unchanged from 2.92.

OK, never mind then.

I looked at it and am seeing some very weird
and inconsistent behavior. At times I get 2 different fonts for the top and
bottom hint lines which shouldn't be possible. I will see if I can figure
out what is happening. Thanks

FWIW, I see hint lines in 2.92 and 2.93 garbled in all new AOS systems, but they display just fine in my aging MCP2(!)


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