Mailing List Archived Message #149

From: "Lewis" <> Full Headers
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Subject: Re: [lswitcher-dev] Properties notebook verbiage
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:50:17 -0500
To: lSwitcher Developers Mailing List <>


On 11/22/20 09:23 am, Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote:

On 20/11/22 05:09, Lewis wrote:
On 11/21/20 06:28 pm, Gregg Young wrote:

[ticket 79]
The gist of it is that we have a properties notebook with four tabs:

Popup | Taskbar | Miscellaneous | About

In the help, we refer to the "Taskbar" as the standalone lSwitcher bar, and
"Widget" as the XCenter widget. The properties tab includes settings for both
the Taskbar and the Widget, so the label is misleading (implying only Taskbar
settings on those pages).  In fact, page 2 of that tab includes Mouse actions,
and page 3 has our Exclude filters. Clearly, the label "Taskbar" is

I hadn't noticed this until you mentioned it. I admittedly use the widget very little (mostly some testing), but I always thought of that tab as "Taskbar - whether standalone or widget", so no big deal for me.

I see it as better aligning to how we differentiate the Taskbar (proper noun) and the Widget (proper noun) in the help.

I never used the widget until we started testing stuff. Now, my main system (T43) runs the Taskbar and my test system (T560) runs the widget, and I can check for consistent behavior between the two. I guess that's also what made me notice all the greyed options on the widget-installed system. The notebook just looks "odd" that way.

The Mouse action page maybe should be #3, so page #2 would be "Filters" for both the PM popup and whatever taskbar is in use, but Mouse actions for the taskbars belong in each taskbar tab IMHO -- don't they apply to the taskbar/widget only, and not the popup?

Indeed, the mouse actions do pertain only to the Taskbar and Widget.

Shouldn't Filters go to the Global tab?

My suggestion is to rename this tab "List" and to change the title of the
first page from "General" to "Appearance"

I find "List" rather unintuitive. Couldn't we have the tab dynamically named Taskbar/Widget depending on which one is used, just like some settings are enabled or disabled (grayed out)?

Indeed, List was more illustrative than creative. LOL

and splitting the page into two areas:


    3D look
    Group items
    Icons only
    Maximum button width
    Auto hide delay


    Auto hide
    Allow resizing
    Auto resize
    Flat buttons
    Top of screen
    Bottom of screen
    Reduce desktop workarea

I agree this would make clearer which settings apply to what taskbar. However, in the same vein, perhaps the "TaskBar" group could only appear in the dialog for the taskbar, and be absent from the dialog for the widget, instead of just grayed out.

I like Gregg's proposal of simply presenting the relevant tab for the installed version.

What is not mentioned in the ticket is that it would be more appropriate to
reorder the tabs:

List | Popup | Miscellaneous | About

Why? The Popup is always active, while the taskbar can be disabled, like the widget -- it won't be active unless you add it to some XCenter.

Hmmm... I hadn't thought of it that way. I tend to think of the Popup as being a convenience feature, alongside the "main" event (Taskbar or Widget). Ordering isn't a really big deal to me as compared to better labeling.

Finally, and also not mentioned in the ticket, is that tabs with only a single
page should not say "Page 1 of 1". In most notebooks, the page number is omitted.


This is all fit and finish stuff, of course, aside from the textual changes.

Also true.



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