From: "Gregg Young" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 1351150 for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:43:33 -0500 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([50.73.8.217]:42999 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kjq1D-0007Vu-0g for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:43:31 -0500 Received: from mail.onyx.syn-alias.com ([206.152.134.66]:37443 helo=smtp.centurylink.net) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kjq17-0005HJ-2e for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:43:25 -0500 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F24.5FC55973.0022,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F26.5FC5596D.0072,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 Return-Path: X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=B8DHL9lM c=1 sm=1 tr=0 cx=a_idp_x a=SGbCn7Zr4ePLhLgjmTmT+Q==:117 a=SGbCn7Zr4ePLhLgjmTmT+Q==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nNwsprhYR40A:10 a=ysqN1OIC4P0A:10 a=eQrCS-SpgXYA:10 a=TWM7in8a19rzA8aUkzAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Feedback-ID: dfw:ctl:res:onyx X-Authed-Username: eWdrQHF3ZXN0Lm5ldA== Authentication-Results: smtp04.onyx.dfw.sync.lan smtp.user=ygk@qwest.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.37.81.204] ([71.37.81.204:51901] helo=ZOBOPEEP) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 9C/A2-28165-C6955CF5; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:43:24 -0500 Message-ID: <100.20890b006a59c55f.573@qwest.net> To: "lSwitcher Developers Mailing List" Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:43:22 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: "Gregg Young" In-Reply-To: References: <5FC23484.9070001.ref@yahoo.es> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.25 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.25.00.1984) X-Mailer: PMMail 3.25.00.1984 for OS/2 Warp 4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [lswitcher-dev] Revisiting 2.92 On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 17:03:47 +0100 Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote: > >On 20/11/29 23:28, Gregg Young wrote: >>On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 12:31:01 +0100 Alfredo Fern ndez D¡az wrote: >>> >>>On 20/11/29 00:02, Gregg Young wrote: > >>>>Please try dropping a 10 or 12 point System VIO font on the hints >>>>windows. There are 2 separate windows so you will need to do it >>>>twice. Note these won't stick but looking at the >>>>screenshot it looks like the font is simply too small. >>> >>>So absurdly small, in fact, that I thought the text was coming up >>>misplaced and clipped or something like that, but you're right -- >>>dropping a font setting on the hint windows fixes it. Actually, text >>>overlaps badly at first right after the font drop, so the PM popup >>>must >>>be dismissed, and brought back on before everything looks right, which >>>I >>>guess is to be expected. >> >>None of this makes any sense. If I do the drop here it doesn't stick >>but >>it doesn't overlap. > >It must be the wording, for it makes sense here: space for the hints >seems to be allocated, based on font size, when the window pops up. If >you drop a bigger font on the text windows, these don't fit in the space >originally allocated but they do once the PM window is refreshed. I do >not think it is that important, but see a screenshot anyway. > >>> >>>Naturally, the question is displaced slightly yet it remains >>>essentially >>>the same -- why did that happen with lSwitcher started one way, but >>>not >>>the other? It certainly looks a lot less like it may hold some secret >>>key to fixing everything in one go, though :( >> >>You are probably correct but what is it telling us. > >Wish I knew, or had the time to sit and set up a stable dev env and >study the code. > >>> >>>Oh, btw: the "fix" does stick. Another thing I wanted to report is >>>that >>>lswitch.ini is saved all the time now. Didn't we have a "Save" button >>>for that? >> >>Yes but since we really don't have a cancel button and we save the >>setting >>on termination they always get saved. This has been true since CS136. > >What's CS136? Revision 136 I just checked and that was when the change was made. Current SVN revision is 240+ True > >>One of the problems is that some things in the ini get changed outside >>the >>settings notebook. The hints font for example. > >I understand that, but it makes the button useless and misleading. >Lacking a better approach (or UI) as of now, a 'fix' could be to save >only non-UI stuff like fonts dropped, etc., unless Save is pressed (save >everything). That would surely have its own problems. > Let me think about how best to handle this. >>> >>>>What screen resolution are you using? Thanks >>> >>>That screenshot comes from a virtual test system running at 800x600 >>>(it's very handy -- see the capture is not scaled), but the same >>>happens >>>on bare metal at 1280x1024. >> >>This may have something to do with the font issue. I am running >>1600x1200 on >>my build setup and 1920x1080 on 5.0.6.0. Is your DPI font size set to >>default? > >It must be, I haven't touched that on a single AOS system (all of my >test systems but one are ArcaOS, and I haven't tested that one yet). >Also, ArcaNoae must have started doing something different on 5.0.6.03, >because it's when my standard test setup (which always comprised a clean >AOS install + a clean test lswitcher install, and will include a second >unpacked lswitcher from now on) started to show this tiny font issue. I guess it is possible that they changed some screen related setting or maybe "fixed" something with font handling. Thanks Gregg