From: "Gregg Young" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 1594978 for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:30:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.201] (port=44768 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kvpQ0-0003oc-2X for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:30:40 -0500 Received: from mail.onyx.syn-alias.com ([206.152.134.66]:10228 helo=smtp.centurylink.net) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kvpL2-0007Nh-2O for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:25:32 -0500 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F28.5FF0F410.001F,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F2A.5FF0F2DC.0022,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 Return-Path: X-Vade-Score: -100 X-Vade-Verditct: clean X-Vade-Analysis: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrvddvledgudefkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfujgfpteevqfftpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefkhffvffhrjghffgfogggtgffusehtkeertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfifhrvghgghcujghouhhnghdfuceohihgkhesqhifvghsthdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkedvtefgudetteetgefgleeugfetudefudeitefhheffiefhuedtffelleffledtnecukfhppeejuddrfeejrdekvddrudejheenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=UOGj4xXy c=1 sm=1 tr=0 cx=a_idp_x a=qjaM4IM+B4bgCi+zudFLbA==:117 a=qjaM4IM+B4bgCi+zudFLbA==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EmqxpYm9HcoA:10 a=ysqN1OIC4P0A:10 a=eQrCS-SpgXYA:10 a=f_8vDGTVarFm2J9QaTkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Feedback-ID: dfw:ctl:res:onyx X-Authed-Username: eWdrQHF3ZXN0Lm5ldA== Authentication-Results: smtp03.onyx.dfw.sync.lan smtp.user=ygk@qwest.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.37.82.175] ([71.37.82.175:61309] helo=ZOBOPEEP) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id 74/1B-16860-BD2F0FF5; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:25:31 -0500 Message-ID: <100.a8310800d9f2f05f.021@qwest.net> To: "lSwitcher Developers Mailing List" Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2021 15:25:29 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: "Gregg Young" In-Reply-To: References: Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.25 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.25.00.1984) X-Mailer: PMMail 3.25.00.1984 for OS/2 Warp 4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [lswitcher-dev] 2.92 vs 2.93 on MCP2 vs AOS (was lSwitcher-2-93-0-RC_4.wpi (was [...] RC_3)) On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 12:27:46 +0100 Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote: > >El 20/12/16 a las 00:32, Alfredo Fern�ndez D�az escribi�: > > >>Now, I also installed a plain vanilla (no "international" fonts, no >>"Russian" >>fonts, no nothing installed on top) Spanish MCP2 system from 2001 for >>further >>testing -- lSwitcher 2.92 (which didn't do the settings font switch) >>displays >>its Russian notebook just fine on that with the default font (System >>Proportional IIRC). I tried all the fonts that pop up in the font >>palette by >>default (Tms Rmn, Courier, Helv) and the Russian notebook displays just >>fine, >>letting aside the clipping at 640�480. I am not a specialist in Czech >>or >>Polish, but they look readable to me as well, and certainly there are >>no >>squares nor "house" characters. >>Just see the lSw292@MCP2 screenshots series. > > >>>>Case in point: I have an older Spanish work system where naturally >>>>Spanish non-ASCII characters are displayed correctly all the time. I >>>>expect this may not be the case for the Global tab (CP1207), >>> >>>The only reason this wouldn't work is if the system predates the use >>>of uconv.dll or if it doesn't have the Warp Sans and/or Helv fonts >>>installed. None of which is likely. >> >>Actually, I was right, > >Almost ;) > >>and I can show you on the test MCP2/es system again. >>The only thing that did not render properly in 2.92 in it, was the >>"Global" >>page with the multi-language drop-down: not even "Espa�ol", whereas >>the other >>pages do Spanish, Russian, etc. flawlessly. The good news is that page >>is >>already fixed in 2.93 without using the Times New Roman, either. Have a >>look >>at the "Unicode_" pair of screenshots. > >So, language support already worked in MCP2 without any fancy font stuff >in v2.92, with only one yet notable exception: the Global tab (the only >one that really needs to be multilingual, so it uses CP1207). This >really irked me last night, but I was too tired to go on. > >To summarize: > >-In v2.92, non-ASCII chars in the Global tab don't display properly >under MCP2, but they do under AOS. >-In v2.93(rc4), the whole notebook displays properly even under bare >MCP2. > >So something in the difference between MCP2 and AOS was doing something >for 2.92 that 2.93 was doing on its own. Sleeping over it, it hit me >this morning: Styler has this 'dialog enhancing' setting labelled "set a >dialog font default"... > >And that's it: > >In v2.92, all tabs use WarpSans, except Global -- this could be seen >on my last screenshots using a boldish, system default font (System >Proportional, probably) on MCP2 but not on AOS. > >On an MPC2, I installed Styler. Now, with Styler having set its dialog >default font, everything in the 2.92 settings notebook displays >properly, including the Global tab, which was rendered using WarpSans >(Styler's own default, which happens to be a Unicode font) now. Turn >that setting off, and the Global tab gets back to its 'bad' display -- >so it's that default font. > >On the same MCP2, v2.93 already uses WarpSans explicitly for all >its notebook tabs, so Styler doesn't make a difference (not that it >should even try unless you check another setting called "replace even >explicitly set fonts" owtte). Hi The difference is I now explicitly set the font most every where which wasn't the case in 2.92. Thanks Gregg