From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Alfredo_Fern=c3=a1ndez_D=c3=adaz?=" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 1030362 for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 06:45:40 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([50.73.8.217]:43545 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kByMW-0005US-1F for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 06:45:32 -0400 Received: from sonic309-24.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([77.238.179.82]:40769) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kByML-0004rG-0f for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 06:45:22 -0400 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020210.5F4A31CC.0030,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A02020C.5F4A31C2.0027,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1598697919; bh=9x6cCVsvSe5rdyGoaSfLAzpX2RNQ6w6F9Wonscv6q3s=; h=From:Subject:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=bhVjCcLymcqf5Hm7fefotYhtdG1wyEv9C9PnSdpdymOyXQQ6/5TgZu3qqhy326SpOVyDXqIlS5Cb0HYSDh+8LqKYL1HmITpXH5vr58ssVJT0ck4fXLArbBrnLelR6x7V57ILm2S0C0apkMiR+8CpFI8kZ/IiLKmUYjhCyuigCluS62g1wws286KgWcJ1erVba/J2qR6Q07n+K9POLkYpcBhkqT8sxlB+iph5VReQoCGeP6GT+x62l0cM7bJK59Vby1ZYMtTeRIttv3QPOQJDpZm9REd+XNDtIxgjZd9iTXLRzIc31OmjDik8lAnjAGAxbK4aQQxi/lku/M2MgxARpw== X-YMail-OSG: XgroEkEVM1khKeLYjQtL8tLjDq3r1Y02sMrctAH9wb9CFIPJkjtnTo1YzSbXeRD 7yW5gZH.1KqWhHcFFLhFLNeT8k80OuAt.uO0vCRUVJXDxgaMJu0EcGQCUy2ZilhifdwVmLoMvIVW oFhJuHCXHUv8leTMSxS3vRbUrDDYVv22CNXG1a8as_j2GZOj65qhO9Q2Nh8yNBz7K1s3GrYdz3rS Nl4rFlCTex4veUYdnk5JFIw3ySzFIKmeJMHFh2WFuPLcfCoqQ4r6a5_GlgwkcP9X.RvB7Jevuz4p BtAy.5KWzDy_mrJ182ci9hkPXYIWDh8OT.Vzv7zsn53EFz49Fb5OnUy72q0X_3YUCtdvJQnn0ZX2 UFjhvbcfTJY2.P2tnJt8mJJSNfjMEhDWySFuzHeP9kLSrpcNYOoSsaKHGpJiKsz_9pedVMc_LqSG vEex.b0Zgf7r1k__j33ntE70hDOBH8PqFDtpy9o7aRaTP0kDnmOj6yiCJnuzyaNRvs1HVPXr2uAG NjqGdJHjI28BlQGphLDKdGHLcc_8PZLLwcaQCchHfDsNkLgE2AVAjxGL47bfzSDmNFlaIyFaMDrV aUX26iHQ5mqbAENl_UYBh1xhMuYXFmtqhbnWiBwpWfzXQG_uYTJi4LqGDQEV.svJlwsUMkRsNipa GjfqLKAggBSjX3bIsceQz6Z0iSKL1zu962oGw1CawwdWaNmxPQwVXNPYdP7.5MIvsIMSL6X.U11s ifkHqHIWScdo8OEDArBkoRw0hWbZCgdeH5wBMvo8a1BdpfDPg8T2hpjgGypes4aPIsgv6Fj.YKjq .0jivUixVIR0rgnwOFJkSYlyEsRHaG1zpkyzCINOnlIYyYAOAy3pZDbn16zoKMoBGfAoCyFyq3xv YIm5nOSRelSZLtCj9ci_rjFS6Z8Df.DQDxr8qkC4p2t0HQvxdhfKNZfOhb9M6.GaCRSjeMIyqp.R iR5TBIvMOntDIU930E_jC8bp9n0euzhDLE0M4rhI888PauLauP2ASE2x._HLAo3WdK7wyOLN7J4h ew5V0tEQjMoFogZ2PQf3bjK8WPG9HJ3eNvnPzArzsoFvhngqTGcdhf_O9IXMnLwnlX5EBV6fQDbG eM3_GtGzux1bab8WjGFO4Pyq0FwwNCfbjiPSyVMwvfky6hDkVGuyInvZrAj8xckBLFncz5c0TaQB aNQmnePfGFhvjChVsmU0Ybr7AzCgDf7iB_2egpfCxyDHcTy8HkMSvtfiixjocLckKD5HISgCqqDU k3PNqhrBxrFUE8v_dDVnFZoB52ns_x50EXHhI2VliMswmqCpG2ZcPP__l5frjKtFZVLrr4gKEF_W cu3c5x_7p4cGIeU_Ou1MRJLW3_jF3q96Qp6CmzAkpeDhah6QXcdMtcYwpTmCjvUfCLcVaVn0pOqk yE1Yxe7UvxEP_jR9lcNrEBlUgVc1s4UBJyanMN7zmCspxORIKbtj3tMQl2UXyKLkRfkhue4mW6MN CIa_lkE7DWRu4kAJyuiAODS0d.4hVqja2p7VZwTkykyTsEU8F Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:45:19 +0000 Received: by smtp406.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 472b7fcd6d968db43f7e1b6c7906428d; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: lSwitcher 2 92 RCs To: lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com References: <100.500a0a00add43e5f.003@qwest.net> <5F3EE153.8050503@2rosenthals.com> <100.489a0e00d706405f.013@qwest.net> <5F401446.4000407@2rosenthals.com> <5F401F81.2090308@2rosenthals.com> <100.785d02006a26405f.033@qwest.net> <5F402B33.9090702@2rosenthals.com> <5F44DBD7.5010602@yahoo.es> <100.e0160400ebc5455f.002@qwest.net> <5F463134.1060209@yahoo.es> <5F4692C8.2030705@2rosenthals.com> <5F47829F.6030902@yahoo.es> <5F47DE34.1080102@2rosenthals.com> Message-ID: <5F4A3207.2000904@yahoo.es> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:46:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F47DE34.1080102@2rosenthals.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16565 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) Content-Length: 4530 ... and getting ahead again... ;p On 20/08/27 18:24, Lewis wrote: > Still running to catch up... > > On 08/27/20 05:53 am, Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote: >> The screenshot is from January, 2019. I guess some subconscious part of my >> brain was hoping somebody else would notice too ;( >> >> And I have a few like that for AOS too ;((( > > If everyone used English (as he should, some would no doubt argue), we would > not be having this discussion. :-D > > Indeed, I am guilty as charged for not reviewing the other languages (at all, > in this case). :'( Well, it's part of what we're supposed to do. I'm sorry sometimes somebody "has to" report something because I didn't clear my to-do list fast enough, though. So many wasted hours :( >>> I wish there were something we could do about the non-CP850 language names, >>> such as to localize the dropdown content itself. We can discuss for a future >>> release, I guess. >> >> The names /are/ localized, > > Quite right. I meant to say, localized for the currently-selected language. Thus: > > English > Spanish > French > German > Russian > Czech You know, that could even be a good idea ;p I'll mull a bit over it. > vs > > English > Español > Français > Deutsch > русский язык > čeština > > (Russian and Czech come from Wikipedia; I take no responsibility for lack of > capitalization or spelling!) These all work well in Unicode, of course, which > is why I can do this in SeaMonkey without any problem. Which helped me stay in os2land a couple of times. >> just broken as Gregg said in another message. Unless standard PM can really >> CP1028 characters (unlike Mozilla or OOo, which use some trickery of their That should have been 'can really show CP1208 characters'. >> own) and convert everything, I don't think there's much more that can be >> done (so you will see ÓÒß߬¿® instead of proper Cyrillic, etc.). > > If I were a native Russian speaker, with little English skills, would I be > able to determine that that was my language? Well, perhaps, if when the system > was switched to CP866 before PMSHELL started the string would show properly > (luckily, 866 includes most 850 characters, so those wouldn't be rendered > illegible). I'm not sure I see what you mean there. I don't think anyone without a very particular background would be able to tell "ÓÒß߬¿®" means "Russian" (and for a PM program, where would it be displayed in CP866 before PMShell starts?). I also wonder how well a Russian with little English skills and somehow being able to recognize the word "Russian" (in English) go together. Why would the former be using an English system? >>> [...] last night I sent another message to lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com [...] >> You know I hate to waste your time with such minutiae, but how do you >> explain this then? >> >> -------- Forwarded message -------- >> Subject: Confirmation Request (0651558236) .... > > Easy: Server crash in December. I had to set everything up from a 2010 backup, > and the rest from bits and pieces backed up from here and there (because the > blasted backup volume was in the same array - the intent was always to back up > to a volume in the array, and then back that up to tape, so open files and > such would not be a problem). the system used to work, but well, the rest is > history. the crash was further complicated by the fact that the JFS data > volumes were type 35, multi-segment, and they became separated when we lost > two drives in the array within minutes of each other (something I had never > before seen). I know :( I think you still owe me one reply on some other thread that touched on that, TM2 and other stuff, btw. > So, the short story is that you were subscribed, and I failed to restore your > account. Look on the bright side -- you made me go check first (I was right to claim I was subscribed), so you won our particular chicken game ;) > > >>> gmail.com address. Odd that you didn't get a rejection notice, though. Let me >>> know if you'd prefer yahoo.es (though as we know, that has been problematic >>> for list emails). >> >> In general gmail is just a fallback and I prefer Yahoo! where I use my real >> name, even if that already started off as a fallback for something else no >> longer active. >> > > Surely. Done. I've also subscribed you to lswicher-user. Hopefully, I was not > presumptuous. Yeah, why would you think I use a program that has had my name all over its documentation since at least 1999? ;)