Mailing List lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com Archived Message #2

From: "Alfredo Fernández Díaz" <lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com> Full Headers
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Subject: Re: lSwitcher 2 92 RCs
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:46:31 +0200
To: lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com

... and getting ahead again... ;p

On 20/08/27 18:24, Lewis wrote:
Still running to catch up...

On 08/27/20 05:53 am, Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote:
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The screenshot is from January, 2019. I guess some subconscious part of my
brain was hoping somebody else would notice too ;(

And I have a few like that for AOS too ;(((

If everyone used English (as he should, some would no doubt argue), we would
not be having this discussion. :-D

Indeed, I am guilty as charged for not reviewing the other languages (at all,
in this case). :'(

Well, it's part of what we're supposed to do. I'm sorry sometimes somebody "has to" report something because I didn't clear my to-do list fast enough, though. So many wasted hours :(

I wish there were something we could do about the non-CP850 language names,
such as to localize the dropdown content itself. We can discuss for a future
release, I guess.

The names /are/ localized,

Quite right. I meant to say, localized for the currently-selected language. Thus:

English
Spanish
French
German
Russian
Czech

You know, that could even be a good idea ;p
I'll mull a bit over it.

vs

English
Español
Français
Deutsch
русский язык
čeština

(Russian and Czech come from Wikipedia; I take no responsibility for lack of
capitalization or spelling!) These all work well in Unicode, of course, which
is why I can do this in SeaMonkey without any problem.

Which helped me stay in os2land a couple of times.

just broken as Gregg said in another message. Unless standard PM can really
CP1028 characters (unlike Mozilla or OOo, which use some trickery of their

That should have been 'can really show CP1208 characters'.

own) and convert everything, I don't think there's much more that can be
done (so you will see ÓÒß߬¿® instead of proper Cyrillic, etc.).

If I were a native Russian speaker, with little English skills, would I be
able to determine that that was my language? Well, perhaps, if when the system
was switched to CP866 before PMSHELL started the string would show properly
(luckily, 866 includes most 850 characters, so those wouldn't be rendered
illegible).

I'm not sure I see what you mean there. I don't think anyone without a very particular background would be able to tell "ÓÒß߬¿®" means "Russian" (and for a PM program, where would it be displayed in CP866 before PMShell starts?). I also wonder how well a Russian with little English skills and somehow being able to recognize the word "Russian" (in English) go together. Why would the former be using an English system?

[...] last night I sent another message to lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com
[...]
You know I hate to waste your time with such minutiae, but how do you
explain this then?

-------- Forwarded message --------
Subject: Confirmation Request (0651558236)
....

Easy: Server crash in December. I had to set everything up from a 2010 backup,
and the rest from bits and pieces backed up from here and there (because the
blasted backup volume was in the same array - the intent was always to back up
to a volume in the array, and then back that up to tape, so open files and
such would not be a problem). the system used to work, but well, the rest is
history. the crash was further complicated by the fact that the JFS data
volumes were type 35, multi-segment, and they became separated when we lost
two drives in the array within minutes of each other (something I had never
before seen).

I know :(
I think you still owe me one reply on some other thread that touched on that, TM2 and other stuff, btw.

So, the short story is that you were subscribed, and I failed to restore your
account.

Look on the bright side -- you made me go check first (I was right to claim I was subscribed), so you won our particular chicken game ;)

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gmail.com address. Odd that you didn't get a rejection notice, though. Let me
know if you'd prefer yahoo.es (though as we know, that has been problematic
for list emails).

In general gmail is just a fallback and I prefer Yahoo! where I use my real
name, even if that already started off as a fallback for something else no
longer active.


Surely. Done. I've also subscribed you to lswicher-user. Hopefully, I was not
presumptuous.

Yeah, why would you think I use a program that has had my name all over its documentation since at least 1999? ;)

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