From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Alfredo_Fern=c3=a1ndez_D=c3=adaz?=" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.10) with ESMTPS id 1030384 for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:09:11 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([50.73.8.217]:46282 helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by mail.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kByjO-0000y7-0G for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:09:10 -0400 Received: from sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([77.238.179.147]:38661) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1kByjL-0005hx-2T for lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 07:09:08 -0400 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.5F4A3756.0013,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.5F4A3753.003B,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1598699345; bh=YHFYH8J/rZoeCscke4aGBNIn0gFXGK5AO5xyIhMrly4=; h=From:Subject:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=fQetKcKNWn2thJBpvWHuiumk5rXRc2qLZn9exelDE3gc3/xEEtMTit6EJKXy/D6E1a/+lC+pEwnWVNm3u9j/wo2SpnSF1TTeCnjdfATBa/LlqzZblDp6W3zBQLTZeWDI6bD/qVw7sUJptpdx+Ns5CWuPRZCyLB4vSkm/N/ply9rmcnXVnjoVI8LXK8GBgbNyhEkKSya60Uw213ufQBrf0kubhZEcie0wcqjdlOf+xOlRIDoVJZa9VKIHQp+34QiAPay6Fr9G5Yw21VzUOdATQ5Fsz9GhpJJMtpOzLQvnf9AsmMBkjRSgQZg6Dfq8nzP8SYQvn14NblkDwusnedJULg== X-YMail-OSG: KCy_LAgVM1mWWr2ZhTdvy2YlNgl7ao4PvzVA0pZfTM2kWW.FCxqGKHgi9MiI78r AvYIIAmeCcN6R3ER2wZ0zHO_H1PDjhcIhvYqgu10yVEQ_i3ehNoQDMeM19l3uNdqvjsa8pzsJViu AHQbLlKbr1fD0ArUOH.G_jqK7c.sIE01REqn74oYG6y1Cp5uNs2AgURRMYoGRspPHuzKvA_oE8_J A_ho7gGWDv1PtyQdfVIgw7MEpAHWrQFo8Qu_vTjMyRcy.L.tGyzOoIhKeP0czwcmKiTj3Anvjlbq cABAlr5azk0sETHAfCp3nZPLrMQdMuLEJTonlmZoA3POhFGKcqTqRo6ATmLfxYoPVG2JwQdChluJ WOAuZyZcjd00.fdFyaZjmWGewtFxNaWVTWFKAZZ1aQVojCAFxmAcr07ozHExLlnajt2THlNOKxbN yZ8sQ.yCsTyHoYi6Ax_8uUCMT3PvSvBJxuj1JfXpRVx9kuYuW.Ak7_yOMtu_4.1nBHKyvq6ouWUp XG5mh.BPL4D6o0IwDdxQJrEXVV3WMO33Cdco7mM1N3FsYZC0ZZmyfNMAXyn83QRwxMggg76ERalV e2k_2bCR4dQjQsyW2yUe08Fd9MK4WPffLkpPS2w3qKjtPkI2atX4Cn_bRHilLm47q.PVZU24s6cW Jnmax3FzQzDBAi2d0fCvI0vP4zH8W.YTwG3L1gVVhWjPP8EQqHFpcARxmIx_eDMFIhMOx2ZXE4zd 4xyxI8lQH2Q8OtsqN4l5S74jtQVChX8J02cJGrVE.RQqyzSfUrVWOf5epVEKSF21UlbpcZ_m5aXV QWh2rv7XiQEHpNY3UCK0fp5ZzcmmntJ6KeO57dM5UrEq_ZruhVlOk8Ws4ixh34pi6x7VmwplzlJP bw3iXgLXDvJKvZXWwFav0J1OdPOvZF0HsGesRutGY1.KzBwSh4LkyDkzze1M6QaOibO7b9OUd9D_ oU8tSZlXo7fteNfBCnIBMS._RZ9eIkwmb3E9tg7NCP9hoTv88I.4lDCNcWITsdnhhcMFlbz_5drU wGDj5N1746Hzv5XEHWxXKJH9QNA9J_PLycPoYH9tLJjSzU8cxohkAEEMsoCJpTTUouJcwyb3yTCC 4.VnrG.YyBWu1XFuFlcoSEgtZu8ZZ7vYUgLofsG2ZFT1CvUqzQEfjqXFoE_sj9arfhaFmCQ_03gw FDHy9djfAhLl6Rr8QCjSTWsj7fKoTdVAmeHQ_oSmk20fWGMfdfHwVlKvxMFVgAVwdlEr5cDNRt2u yf2eb9sqiMXxwqLRNq_EexpkSRnEB5k_rhig95iSSvyG26x1198_E7ZFwWwIwfC8rhGcd0Ew.1kK 1bOnG8UqTPBWPNZvIVvlQYqnSk4Y2MAQqBplZS2ci8MZgVtKoYN2mxaDM45F7xIWmimfQiI7eMlh H7vyOQvk0xcad12pUZNudpe8MEQooxYTq.oJAD7AgbQGj8uL9Eg6S8gXK8JmZ3uS8Wh8MerQRqrz Ac_crPiVa86MyBE5w_SoJUOopotYkKm_6MRjjtWyCR2mIdUQE Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:09:05 +0000 Received: by smtp414.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d6b458844b1872c632936783315b8385; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Russian (was Re: lSwitcher 2 92 RCs) To: lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com References: <100.500a0a00add43e5f.003@qwest.net> <5F3EE153.8050503@2rosenthals.com> <100.489a0e00d706405f.013@qwest.net> <5F401446.4000407@2rosenthals.com> <5F401F81.2090308@2rosenthals.com> <100.785d02006a26405f.033@qwest.net> <5F402B33.9090702@2rosenthals.com> <5F44DBD7.5010602@yahoo.es> <100.e0160400ebc5455f.002@qwest.net> <5F463134.1060209@yahoo.es> <5F4692C8.2030705@2rosenthals.com> <100.28f90600fbb1465f.016@qwest.net> <5F46B586.9070804@2rosenthals.com> <5F478937.2070809@yahoo.es> <5F47E0B8.9070209@2rosenthals.com> Message-ID: <5F4A33C6.3090508@yahoo.es> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:53:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F47E0B8.9070209@2rosenthals.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16565 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) Content-Length: 2629 On 20/08/27 18:35, Lewis wrote: > I suggest we consider moving this to the list, now that its confirmed that > we're all on it. Should have happened two messages ago :) > On 08/27/20 06:21 am, Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote: >> Hi again, >> >> On 20/08/26 21:18, Lewis wrote: >> >>> Clearly, this isn't a major issue, currently. >> >> Depends on your definition. As far as lSwitch is concerned it's not an issue >> even for me, but... > > Well, I say "currently" as the Russian translation is woefully out of date at > this point. Still, an argument could be made that it is sufficient for basic use. Haven't tried. Regarding Russian, my main concern is being able to read text files, not check UIs. >>> Russian just made it into the build tree, so I've been going cross-eyed >>> looking at Cyrillic recently, and worse, CP866 strings under CP850 (which is >>> headache-inducing). If the time comes that we have users with a need to switch >>> from a CP850 language to CP852 (Czech) or CP866 (Russian), this may become >>> more of an issue. Right now, it's trivial, at best, but does fail the fit and >>> finish test. >> >> I have mentioned it in the past, but it was a side comment kind of thing, so >> I didn't expect you to remember yet even more trivia about me. I need to >> keep around both an 850/1004 to exchange system and an 850/866 one to >> exchange stuff with Windows systems and work with Russian files easily >> (currently that means running a VirtualPC ArcaOS inside my main OS/2 system). > > I did not recall that. Thanks for reminding me. > Then I'll also remind you that actually understanding what I can read from those files is a goal set for sometime in the future. Just in case :) >> I had thought of writing something called CPLaunch in the past, that would >> start processes in any code page supported by the system regardless of >> config.sys CODEPAGE=, but it seemed too much to study and a lot of work to >> build something only I would use once in a while. >> > > An interesting idea. You bet. I even thought of WPS integration, like the 'language' tab of program objects, only better. Unfortunately, another project that didn't leave the design board. I guess the Platonic os2er (aka cave-dweller) syndrome has its down side. > I'm not sure how one could accomplish this, given the > primary/secondary handing of codepages in OS/2, but we do a lot of stuff right > now that five years ago nobody thought possible (like booting ArcaOS on UEFI, > and soon, being able to create and install to GPT disks). Yes, good thing there were people who would soldier on more than I did :)