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????: Re: [lswitcher-dev] lSwitcher-2-92-0-RC_11.wpi
????: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 22:34:25 -0400
????: lSwitcher Developers Mailing List <lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com>

Hi, guys...

Have not yet installed RC11, but:

On 09/23/20 08:49 pm, Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote:
Hi,

On 20/09/23 22:21, Gregg Young wrote:
Hi

Attached is lSwitcher-2-92-0-RC_10.wpi. Hopefully the last RC.
This changes reduce desktop so it works with resize and auto resize.
Allow resize is no longer automatically selected when autoresize is deselected.

Good. At least now we can compare functionality between this and old 2.61 on an equal footing. 2.92 seems to do a number of funny things with this indeed, but I'll go over that after I test it a bit more.

It also blocks activation of hotkeys on processes where the action
isn't supported  (ie pressing "a" when the desktop is the selected
process will not attempt to  cascade the desktop).

Confirmed, I can't tile or cascade the Desktop, etc. now. Great.

Fixed failure of tile and cascade to appear on menus associated with PM
folders.

Confirmed, they appear now.

Hopefully I have finally fixed trying to cascade or tile things that aren't
designed to be resized. They simply won't have these menu choices.

Confirmed. I think this is more or less inevitable, but at least you shouldn't even try with things that tell you so. I tried a number of programs and objects that are non-resizable, and it has worked so far (tile or cascade options not displayed at all). So, no tickets -- Perfect ^^

BTW: apparently lSwitcher only lists up to 27 windows in its PM poopup. While that is fine for me, and probably more than enough for everyone, perhaps it should somehow indicate when there are more windows opened than listed.


To be clear, I specifically do not think we should set an arbitrary maximum (50), but rather a set number of rows and icons per row. Thus, 27 seems logical (or 26 + Window List at the very end). I've had instances (on the server, in particular) where I've forgotten to set pid files and the same cron job overlaps multiple times, leading to scores of CMD sessions. Obviously, I address these scripting deficiencies as they occur, but it would be really annoying to have an entire 1024x768 (server display) consumed by the popup. So, yes, I agree. It's just a matter of how to gain access to the full list. I kind of like the idea of tacking on an icon for the Window List.

This is a longer term RFE, too, and nothing which should hold up 2.92.

Thanks,
Alfred.

P.S. What I found funny about the new keys description on the PM popup is that it is always two-line, even if only one is used (f.e. for the Desktop). But it would probably look odd to keep resizing the window all the time, for example if you alternate the PM popup selection between the Desktop (1-line keys description) and a WPS folder.


I agree. I find UIs such as you describe to be annoying in their quest to be too smart. Particularly for the popup, I like things to remain as static as possible so my eyes can focus only on the programs between which I am switching. I use the popup often when I have a Citrix or RDesktop session running (which consumes most of the display below my top-positioned XCenter) and a Lucide session, and I am copying and pasting: Alt-Tab-Tab, Alt-Tab-Tab. A noisy popup window would upset my rhythm.

Thanks for the new drop, Gregg. I'll get into it ASAP.

--
Lewis
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