>
>Depends on how well I can describe this and how severe you think it is
>:-)
>
>Without the need for more systematic testing I found the following two
>glitches (which are completely absent from the older version I still
>use) should be easy to reproduce and observe:
>
>-Turning on 'Reduce desktop workarea' with 'auto resize' already on
>gives the Desktop a title bar which you can use to drag it around, etc.
>See screenshot, right above the mouse pointer.
>
>-Also, turning this on, with it ON in the XCenter properties too, makes
>reducing the workarea fail on both: if you open e.g. the System text
>editor and maximize it, the window will go full screen, i.e. covering
>*both* lSwitcher and the XCenter.
>
>Even more fun, it takes this ability from the XCenter as well until
>it is restarted: if you turn 'reduce Desktop' off in lSwitcher, a
>maximized window will still cover the XCenter; if you close lSwitcher,
>a maximized window will still cover the XCenter; you need to close both
>lSwitcher and the XCenter, and reopen the XCenter (no need to alter its
>properties, though) for XCenter to start reducing the Desktop workarea
>again.
This is all because it doesn't actually work in 2.6x or 2.7x. It appears to work because the hook was catching the SWP_MAXIMIZE and reducing the size sent to the window being maximized by the width of the taskbar. I changed this part back to the 2.6x behavior
The code to actually reduce the desktop was remmed out in all the 2.6x and 2.7x sources. This would also explain why it worked with xcenter.
>
>>>
>>>>It also blocks activation of hotkeys on processes where [...]
>>>
>>>Confirmed, I can't tile or cascade the Desktop, etc. now. Great.
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>>
>>>>Fixed failure of tile and cascade to appear on menus [...]
>>>
>>>Confirmed, they appear now.
>>
>>:-)
>>
>
>One minor thing (for me, not that I deemed it particularly useful): what
>ever happened to 'Move'?
It is still on the widget and taskbar menus. I don't think it was ever on the popup menus.
>
>>>
>>>>Hopefully I have finally fixed trying to cascade or tile things that
>>>>aren't
>>>>designed to be resized. They simply won't have these menu choices.
>>>
>>>Confirmed. I think this is more or less inevitable, but at least you
>>>shouldn't even try with things that tell you so. I tried a number of
>>>programs and objects that are non-resizable, and it has worked so far
>>>(tile or cascade options not displayed at all). So, no tickets --
>>>Perfect ^^
>>
>>:-) This one still might not be fixed as the fix I used doesn't make
>>complete
>>sense re the PM documentation. Which of course is true for allot of
>>other things.
>>
>
>Yes, the day things start working as documented we'll know the end is
>nigh ;-)
>
>>>BTW: apparently lSwitcher only lists up to 27 windows in its PM
>>>poopup.
>>>While that is fine for me, and probably more than enough for everyone,
>>>perhaps it should somehow indicate when there are more windows opened
>>>than listed.
>>
>>Please put in a ticket for this and I will review it in the future.
>>I don't see it as a reason to delay the release as it has always been
>>this way.
>
>OK, so depending on your comments on the double 'reduce Desktop' again,
>it will be this one ticket, or both.
See my note above. It appears that reduce desktop is performing as IBM designed it when it is actually turned on.
>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Alfred.
>>>
>>>P.S. What I found funny about the new keys description on the PM popup
>>>is that it is always two-line, even if only one is used (f.e. for the
>>>Desktop). But it would probably look odd to keep resizing the window
>>>all
>>>the time, for example if you alternate the PM popup selection between
>>>the Desktop (1-line keys description) and a WPS folder.
>>
>>Yes I saw this I could probably add text to the second window stating
>>no other
>>options are available. If you think that would be better
>
>Sorry, I couldn't tell if by "that" you mean add text to the second
>line stating no other options are available, or alternate between one
>plus blank and two-line descriptions. Anyway, I think I can get used to
>a blank line appearing sometimes just as easily, so my preference is
>the same as Lewis': keep things as static as possible so they're not
>overly distracting. (Descriptions will change anyway as you select one
>task or another in the popup, so I can't really imagine what's more
>distracting.)
I will leave it as is.
>
>>please add a ticket so I don't forget. Hopefully Lewis, Doug and/or
>>Andy can
>>try this and assuming no show stoppers I will release the GA late
>>tomorrow.
>
>I would like to update the docs so at least my translation is in synch.
>I see r229 in the SVN trunk. Is that the latest?
>
>That said, I see a few notes on Russian re: keys, etc. I can help with
>that, but I need to set up another test system.
I got the docs in your other email and will add them. I will send out an RC_12 since I am changing the hook code to address part of your reduce desktop issue. I will still allow the real reduce desktop for non-reducible taskbars (still won't work if xCenter has reduced the desktop). The reducible bars will get the pseudo reduced desktop. Thanks
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