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Subject: Re: [lswitcher-dev] lSwitcher 2 92 RCs

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:46:31 +0200 Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote:
>
>.... and getting ahead again... ;p
>
>On 20/08/27 18:24, Lewis wrote:
>>Still running to catch up...
>>
>>On 08/27/20 05:53 am, Alfredo Fernández Díaz wrote:
><snip>
>>>The screenshot is from January, 2019. I guess some subconscious part
>>>of my
>>>brain was hoping somebody else would notice too ;(
>>>
>>>And I have a few like that for AOS too ;(((
>>
>>If everyone used English (as he should, some would no doubt argue), we
>>would
>>not be having this discussion. :-D
>>
>>Indeed, I am guilty as charged for not reviewing the other languages
>>(at all,
>>in this case). :'(
>
>Well, it's part of what we're supposed to do. I'm sorry sometimes
>somebody "has to" report something because I didn't clear my to-do list
>fast enough, though. So many wasted hours :(
>

I didn't check because the change that caused this was to the build system not any of the resources. In retrospect I should have realized what could happen.

>>>>I wish there were something we could do about the non-CP850 language
>>>>names,
>>>>such as to localize the dropdown content itself. We can discuss for a
>>>>future
>>>>release, I guess.
>>>
>>>The names /are/ localized,
>>
>>Quite right. I meant to say, localized for the currently-selected
>>language. Thus:
>>
>>English
>>Spanish
>>French
>>German
>>Russian
>>Czech
>

I can do this if that is what everyone want or I can translate Spanish and German but leave Russian and Czech in English. Let me know.

>You know, that could even be a good idea ;p
>I'll mull a bit over it.
>
>>vs
>>
>>English
>>Español
>>Français
>>Deutsch
>>⌂⌂⌂⌂⌂⌂⌂ ⌂⌂⌂⌂
>>⌂e⌂tina
>>
>>(Russian and Czech come from Wikipedia; I take no responsibility for
>>lack of
>>capitalization or spelling!) These all work well in Unicode, of course,
>>which
>>is why I can do this in SeaMonkey without any problem.
>
>Which helped me stay in os2land a couple of times.
>
>>>just broken as Gregg said in another message. Unless standard PM can
>>>really
>>>CP1028 characters (unlike Mozilla or OOo, which use some trickery of
>>>their
>
>That should have been 'can really show CP1208 characters'.
>
>>>own) and convert everything, I don't think there's much more that can
>>>be
>>>done (so you will see ÓÒß߬¿® instead of proper Cyrillic, etc.).
>>
>>If I were a native Russian speaker, with little English skills, would I
>>be
>>able to determine that that was my language? Well, perhaps, if when the
>>system
>>was switched to CP866 before PMSHELL started the string would show
>>properly
>>(luckily, 866 includes most 850 characters, so those wouldn't be
>>rendered
>>illegible).
>
>I'm not sure I see what you mean there. I don't think anyone without
>a very particular background would be able to tell "ÓÒß߬¿®" means
>"Russian" (and for a PM program, where would it be displayed in CP866
>before PMShell starts?). I also wonder how well a Russian with little
>English skills and somehow being able to recognize the word "Russian"
>(in English) go together. Why would the former be using an English
>system?

Probably better than figuring out what the odd string at the bottom is. Also if you install on a Russian system it will automatically come up in Russian (mostly). Thanks

Gregg

>
>>>>[...] last night I sent another message to
>>>>lswitcher-dev@2rosenthals.com
>[...]
>>>You know I hate to waste your time with such minutiae, but how do you
>>>explain this then?
>>>
>>>-------- Forwarded message --------
>>>Subject: Confirmation Request (0651558236)
>.....
>>
>>Easy: Server crash in December. I had to set everything up from a 2010
>>backup,
>>and the rest from bits and pieces backed up from here and there
>>(because the
>>blasted backup volume was in the same array - the intent was always to
>>back up
>>to a volume in the array, and then back that up to tape, so open files
>>and
>>such would not be a problem). the system used to work, but well, the
>>rest is
>>history. the crash was further complicated by the fact that the JFS
>>data
>>volumes were type 35, multi-segment, and they became separated when we
>>lost
>>two drives in the array within minutes of each other (something I had
>>never
>>before seen).
>
>I know :(
>I think you still owe me one reply on some other thread that touched on
>that, TM2 and other stuff, btw.
>
>>So, the short story is that you were subscribed, and I failed to
>>restore your
>>account.
>
>Look on the bright side -- you made me go check first (I was right to
>claim I was subscribed), so you won our particular chicken game ;)
>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>gmail.com address. Odd that you didn't get a rejection notice,
>>>>though. Let me
>>>>know if you'd prefer yahoo.es (though as we know, that has been
>>>>problematic
>>>>for list emails).
>>>
>>>In general gmail is just a fallback and I prefer Yahoo! where I use my
>>>real
>>>name, even if that already started off as a fallback for something
>>>else no
>>>longer active.
>>>
>>
>>Surely. Done. I've also subscribed you to lswicher-user. Hopefully, I
>>was not
>>presumptuous.
>
>Yeah, why would you think I use a program that has had my name all over
>its documentation since at least 1999? ;)
>
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