From: "Rick R." Received: from mxout2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.166] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 331152 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:38:21 -0400 Received: from mxin2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.176]) by mxout2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GJxn7-0005oQ-S1 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:38:02 -0400 Received: from web60612.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.195]) by mxin2.mailhop.org with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GJxn7-000LBR-O3 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:38:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 99954 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2006 19:37:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C1c33z6Vb94A3LNTwDbLbWYnlqMQh13pBwJPnXTvcfKPou9y8ggunQiM4wZO82cp+W1CWc8XP2khX0pWcYqpqF25tzJ/HzOT8EOkBsSlugYKNrU14AEdFU+zCQhWPVl4rhdrfh0W97ZPL3tBXElp4DQPGZlf/XCHDwilxFqwF5o= ; Message-ID: <20060903193756.99952.qmail@web60612.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.252.246.35] by web60612.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:37:56 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Next wave of portable device architecture To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1741120420-1157312276=:99378" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --0-1741120420-1157312276=:99378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm installing WSeB on my T60p this afternoon and I think I already got past the SATA issue. My biggest issue yet is how to move over the WinXP pre-load (why the heck is it always that painful to migrate Windoze???) Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: On 09/02/06 02:19 pm, Carl Gehr thus wrote : > On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:07 -0400 (EDT), Stanley Sidlov wrote: > > >> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:15:01 +0930, Paul Smedley wrote: >> >> >>> WPA offers far better protection than WEP - A package supporting WPA on >>> OS/2 should be available real soon now... >>> >> but only for GenMac and GenMac is not for PCMCIA or PC-Card NICs. >> Right? I want to buy a PC-Card (since there are no 16bit PCMCIA >> cards that do "G") which is supported on OS/2 so I don't have to >> lug my ASUS 330GL around. >> > > One sorta off-topic comment: > I was just reading that PCCard devices are on their way out and being > replaced on most new laptops by something called ExpressCards. So, is > it just a matter of time before this will be the way to add a NIC > rather than a PCCard? And, does anyone know if there is support > planned for ExpressCard devices? > > That's a good question. I don't know enough about the physical architecture of ExpressCards to know whether we have OS-level support as yet. That said, here's some interesting stuff: http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/qa.jsp. ThinkPad T60's have a combination bay: The ExpressCard slot is on top, and the PC Card slot is on the bottom. ExpressCard/34 is 34mm wide (standard for notebooks) and the ExpressCard/54 is 54mm wide (desktop format?). These cards use either PCI Express architecture or USB 2.0 architecture, so I suppose it is possible that we have support in OS/2 already, but as I haven't been able to get eCS to properly install on a T60 as yet (got past the SATA hard drive issue by specifying "Compatibility" SATA mode in BIOS, but I get a trap at the first reboot during install which I haven't yet diagnosed), I can't say whether we even recognize the slot or not. -- Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------ Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC Accountants / Network Consultants New York / Northern Virginia www.2rosenthals.com eComStation Consultants www.ecomstation.com Novell Users Int'l www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --0-1741120420-1157312276=:99378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I'm installing WSeB on my T60p this afternoon and I think I already got past the SATA issue.
My biggest issue yet is how to move over the WinXP pre-load (why the heck is it always that painful to migrate Windoze???)


Lewis G Rosenthal <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote:
On 09/02/06 02:19 pm, Carl Gehr thus wrote :
> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:07 -0400 (EDT), Stanley Sidlov wrote:
>
>
>> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:15:01 +0930, Paul Smedley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> WPA offers far better protection than WEP - A package supporting WPA on
>>> OS/2 should be available real soon now...
>>>
>> but only for GenMac and GenMac is not for PCMCIA or PC-Card NICs.
>> Right? I want to buy a PC-Card (since there are no 16bit PCMCIA
>> cards that do "G") which is supported on OS/2 so I don't have to
>> lug my ASUS 330GL around.
>>
>
> One sorta off-topic comment:
> I was just reading that PCCard devices are on their way out and being
> replaced on most new laptops by something called ExpressCards. So, is
> it just a matter of time before this will be the way to add a NIC
> rather than a PCCard? And, does anyone know if there is support
> planned for ExpressCard devices?
>
>
That's a good question. I don't know enough about the physical
architecture of ExpressCards to know whether we have OS-level support as
yet. That said, here's some interesting stuff:
http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/qa.jsp.

ThinkPad T60's have a combination bay: The ExpressCard slot is on top,
and the PC Card slot is on the bottom. ExpressCard/34 is 34mm wide
(standard for notebooks) and the ExpressCard/54 is 54mm wide (desktop
format?). These cards use either PCI Express architecture or USB 2.0
architecture, so I suppose it is possible that we have support in OS/2
already, but as I haven't been able to get eCS to properly install on a
T60 as yet (got past the SATA hard drive issue by specifying
"Compatibility" SATA mode in BIOS, but I get a trap at the first reboot
during install which I haven't yet diagnosed), I can't say whether we
even recognize the slot or not.

--
Lewis
------------------------------------------------------------
Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE
Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC
Accountants / Network Consultants
New York / Northern Virginia www.2rosenthals.com
eComStation Consultants www.ecomstation.com
Novell Users Int'l www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver
Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com
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