From: "Rick R." Received: from mxout2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.166] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 340451 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:32:32 -0400 Received: from mxin2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.176]) by mxout2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GLTMF-000Gzv-6f for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:32:32 -0400 Received: from web60612.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.195]) by mxin2.mailhop.org with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GLTME-0001ef-Jh for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:32:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 67352 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Sep 2006 23:32:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l8oGp9oLLX1rhKDgwoJpyhqAzX/gS1/EInz6268JShPldgfbIUmZyUkIv/5mPHuhPlTrXisjmQPmCyuPYCrg6jWORsXfsB/XGguXtXSu50mSkQo2pU02huYJg7HxT+hOmzo/EBkd5eatfHk04NOXyqRQSxaNbrS30aHiMyN6JeI= ; Message-ID: <20060907233224.67350.qmail@web60612.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.170.240.130] by web60612.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:32:24 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: eCS or OS/2 on T60 [Was: Re: Next wave of portable device architecture] To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1126025382-1157671944=:66653" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) --0-1126025382-1157671944=:66653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My main worry with MS is the vulnerabillity of the Internet stack. Under OS/2 its ez for me to see what is running and what ports are open. Under Windoze I got no clue w/o using special tools, what is open and what isn't. I have to go through all the protocols loaded and check each one of them and then I'm still not sure if there isn't any "backdoor" open in the system. After a clean Windoze install I was online for 3 hours via Wi-Fi. I only went to IBM, Lenovo's and some hardware vendor's website and already got infected with Spyware. Whenever one of those popup windows shows up, offering you some fancy price or to scan your system NEVER USE THE CLOSE OR CANCEL BUTTON!!! Hostile web apps simply switch the "YES" with the "NO/CANCEL/CLOSE" button and you then actually agree to have their application installed on your system. Always close it with the little X mark in the upper right hand corner. That would not have happened under OS/2, as their apps are not compatible with it. Also, the OS/2 operating system lacks many of the auto-install "features" of Windoze. So take great care out there... "R. G. Newbury" wrote: Jan van Wijk wrote: > Hi Carl, > > On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:28:33 -0400 (EDT), Carl Gehr wrote: > >>> I have found that for a Windows-XP that is actually USED over a longer period, >>> something like 6GB is about the minimum, unless you do a lot of tweaking and >>> removing unneeded stuff, or move lots of data to other partitions ... >>> >>> Regards, JvW >> In order to have anything resembling a usable Windoze2K, I had to go to >> 12GB. > > Yes, but that depends on what kind of applications you have and use. > > On a dedicated machine that I use for web-browsing and photoshop only, > I have been running Windows-XP in 6GB for a few years now ... > > On my T42, that has the same plus a few other applications, and is > used more, I also have something like 12GB (which is 75 full :-) If you are going to be crazy enough to go web suring running windows, you should at least know enough to clear out the hidden files which M$ keeps of your surfing history. Go to: sillydog.org/mshidden.php and read the article which explains all about M$ hidden files and why your system's free disk space keeps shrinking. Geoff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. --0-1126025382-1157671944=:66653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
My main worry with MS is the vulnerabillity of the Internet stack.
Under OS/2 its ez for me to see what is running and what ports are open.
Under Windoze I got no clue w/o using special tools, what is open and what isn't.
 
I have to go through all the protocols loaded and check each one of them and then I'm still not sure if there isn't any "backdoor" open in the system.
 
After a clean Windoze install I was online for 3 hours via Wi-Fi. I only went to IBM, Lenovo's and some hardware vendor's website and already got infected with Spyware.

Whenever one of those popup windows shows up, offering you some fancy price or to scan your system NEVER USE THE CLOSE OR CANCEL BUTTON!!!
Hostile web apps simply switch the "YES" with the "NO/CANCEL/CLOSE" button and you then actually agree to have their application installed on your system.
 
Always close it with the little X mark in the upper right hand corner.
 
That would not have happened under OS/2, as their apps are not compatible with it.
Also, the OS/2 operating system lacks many of the auto-install "features" of Windoze.
 
So take great care out there...
 
 

"R. G. Newbury" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote:
Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:28:33 -0400 (EDT), Carl Gehr wrote:
>
>>> I have found that for a Windows-XP that is actually USED over a longer period,
>>> something like 6GB is about the minimum, unless you do a lot of tweaking and
>>> removing unneeded stuff, or move lots of data to other partitions ...
>>>
>>> Regards, JvW
>> In order to have anything resembling a usable Windoze2K, I had to go to
>> 12GB.
>
> Yes, but that depends on what kind of applications you have and use.
>
> On a dedicated machine that I use for web-browsing and photoshop only,
> I have been running Windows-XP in 6GB for a few years now ...
>
> On my T42, that has the same plus a few other applications, and is
> used more, I also have something like 12GB (which is 75 full :-)

If you are going to be crazy enough to go web suring running windows,
you should at least know enough to clear out the hidden files which M$
keeps of your surfing history. Go to: sillydog.org/mshidden.php and
read the article which explains all about M$ hidden files and why your
system's free disk space keeps shrinking.

Geoff




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