Mailing List os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Archived Message #1289

From: "Rick R." <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> Full Headers
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Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Satellite providers (Was Hotspots: Play-for-Fee vs Play-for-Free)
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>

You know what a "honeypot" is Mr?
Its basically what you are "offering" here to the whole wide web.
 
Its a sandbox system that is supposed to trick hackers into believing its "the real thing" and then administrators can use that to analyze hacker tactics and/or track those who fall for it.
 
Since a honey pot is therefore nothing else but an electronic trap to fool those who believe themselves masters of the game, honey pots make hackers MAD, realy, realy MAD.
 
Someone who already forgot more about tracking down hackers than the both of us will ever learn wrote in his essay that even the most seasoned of Admins should forget about ever putting honey pots in the net, as the "black hats" among the hackers see them as a declaration of war and will tear any system appart they perceive to be "spiced" like that.
So he wrote that only those whose job it is to make battle with hackers should ever bother about honey pots.
 
And I agree. Your IP tracking won't do you any good.
Real hackers work with custom coded TP/IP stacks, which fake IP addresses, spoof your stack and even force other servers to forward their packages.
They'll be running circles around you with illegal packages that'll make your tracking SW crash, they will cause your SW to drop them to cmd line level with buffer overflows, your IP stack to execute illegal commands and/or crash your whole system.
 
I spend quite some nights reading their exceprts and essays on the web and the real "black hats" know the vulnerabillities of the TCP/IP stack (and there are many!!) down to the byte level.
 
And if they think you try to play games with them, they might just decide to declare open season on your sorry behind and mess you up from your social # all the way to your credit history and when that happens I don't want to be anywhere near you.


Dunhill Satellite Systems <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote:


Rick R. wrote:
> Inviting the whole Internet to attack your system is a DUMB thing to
> do Mr.
> Really, realy realy DUMB!
1st, it has nothing to do with this mailing list, don't blame them for
my private suggestion
2nd, its my own private invitation, stupid ?? maybe, but i learn from it
as well to secure our network better by
logging every incoming traffic, and evaluate that within minutes
3rd, this extracted info, i can/will use to pass to others, so they can
protect their (os/2) network(s) better.

I knew what can/could happen when i wrote this, it is an insane idea, i
have to agree with that.

Arjan

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