From: "Andy Willis" Received: from mxout2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.166] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 398411 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:07:57 -0400 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GTos6-0009pE-BO for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:07:54 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.236]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GTos6-000MMf-3b for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:07:54 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s6so1496105wxc for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:07:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oU/iAANr4PvJet8Yx8X0vgt1T/3aSm1qL1hAAas6ffnFvxaHXy8wfD6hWfkMMiqhpojbrmSULU13WEngWw+E0gqqMk+862hnjrPrX6pekZlUgFABEGs8RK+SxzAsaXUKNz6fYpQCTnldgP6dAP/cjhJ/6iZiKgDZ0LsG+LrH3QI= Received: by 10.90.71.12 with SMTP id t12mr2388824aga; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.88? ( [32.97.110.142]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 33sm5530864wra.2006.09.30.17.07.53; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <451F06D8.7020307@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:07:52 -0600 Reply-To: abwillis1@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20060927 SeaMonkey/1.5a MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Video Conferencing for WarpStock References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) madodel wrote: > On 09/30/06 Rick R. wrote: >> Not sure why I didn't think of this earlier (or why nobody @ Warpstock >> did!). >> But why don't you set up a VideoConference for WarpStock over the WWW? >> >> There are Java based solutions that work under OS/2. >> Heck, you can even use a Webcam for live video streaming under OS/2 >> (IP Cam based). >> I use all those myself. >> >> But for those of basic means amongst us - >> You could set up a web portal so that people still pay an "entry fee" >> to get in. >> That way all they needed to attend would be a web browser and the MPEG >> or FLASH plug-in. I think even WarpVision might work here. >> >> They could submit their questions in turn either via e-mail or voice >> stream. >> No camera needed on the other side. >> >> Just like a cyber chat session. If you project the questions on a >> white board, then Mr. Dvorac could see for himself how huge the OS/2 >> audience really is. >> >> Now I could manage that, monitor my system gauges in one Desktop and >> follow WarpStock on the other. >> >> That way everybody wins! > > Actually we have tried using volunteers to videotape the sessions and > the result was worthless. I still have the videotapes in my office from > the 2000 event in Philly. We had the plenary sessions go out over > realplayer in 1999 in Atlanta and almost no one could get Realplayer to > work and the feed was slow and unreliable and you couldn't hear much of > anything. And that was with professional equipment of the time. To do > it right would require expensive equipment and people who know what they > are doing to run it. There is no benefit to Warpstock for this unless > someone pays for the equipment and provides the people to run it. > Otherwise it is just a negative encouraging people to not attend. And > even if we could do all that and do it well what is the benefit to the > event? > > Mark I think the idea of adding videoconferencing is worth looking into. However, as Mark said it isn't as easy as just saying it is going to be done. It requires people to set it up and to manage it. Noone will want to pay for joining a video conference where there is no video stream or no audio. Also, much of what occurs at Warpstock is not in the sessions but after hours gathering and talking. People collaborating on different ideas and swapping thoughts on how to solve a problem that someone else has already figured out how to get past. It is something that may be doable but no one has volunteered to do it so far. Andy