From: "madodel" Received: from mxout4.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.168] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 398451 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:44:18 -0400 Received: from mxin2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.176]) by mxout4.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GTpQm-0006ot-Nf for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:43:45 -0400 Received: from pm12.mailnet.ptd.net ([204.186.29.233]) by mxin2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GTpQm-000ILv-L3 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:43:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 15816 invoked by uid 50005); 1 Oct 2006 00:43:43 -0000 Received: from 70.44.175.116 by pm12.mailnet.ptd.net (envelope-from , uid 50002) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1942. Clear:RC:0(70.44.175.116):. Processed in 0.053882 secs); 01 Oct 2006 00:43:43 -0000 Received: from 70.44.175.116.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net (HELO [192.168.1.201]) (authenticated:madodel@[70.44.175.116]) (envelope-sender ) by pm12.mailnet.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Oct 2006 00:43:43 -0000 Message-ID: <451F0F3E.1050800@ptdprolog.net> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:43:42 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (OS/2/20060915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Tales of my two-day Wi-Fi workshop in Milpitas, CA References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 09/30/06 Rick R. wrote: > Put in somewhere in the US midwest, and then its the same distance > for everyone. > Denver, Phoenix, ABQ, or Dallas. > > And if you think Europeans have a hard time getting into the US these > days, then try Europeans (or any foreigner) criss crossing from the > US to Canada and back! > > Do you know they can deny you re-entry into the US w/o any reason, > visa or no visa? > This has already happened to two IT worker from India here. > One day while the two where travelling, his friend was told that he > couldn't come accross the border no more. Just like that. > > Imagine you get stuck over there in CA, and your only valid visa is > for the US. > But the US won't allow you back in no more and you can't even find > out why. > Those US border guards make these decision arbitrary and w/o recourse. > > If you tell them you're attending Warpstock, they might think you're > planning a Hippie rebellion or go to Canada to smoke pot. No kidding > here... No matter where it is located there will be people with issues, but I have to say the non-US citizens we were thinking of when we considered site locations were Europeans in Europe as they represent the largest group of OS/2-eCS users left. These folks had a large presence in most of the earlier events up until about 2001-2002 then it tailed off dramatically. There are actually a lot of determining factors involved, but as Andy points out, unless someone makes a bid a site can't be considered. Mark -- From the eComStation Desktop of: Mark Dodel Warpstock 2006 - Windsor, Ontario, Canada, October 12-15th, http://www.warpstock.org Warpstock Europe - http://www.warpstock.net For a choice in the future of personal computing, Join VOICE - http://www.os2voice.org "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That in it's essence, is Fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message proposing the Monopoly Investigation, 1938