From: "Ed Durrant" Received: from mxout1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.165] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 419677 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:05:58 -0400 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GX9e5-000As3-Kp for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:55:14 -0400 Received: from omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.82.153]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GX9e5-0005KJ-BC for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:55:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.30.2] (really [147.10.172.143]) by omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20061010045506.WDCG8871.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@[192.168.30.2]> for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:55:06 +0000 Message-ID: <452B27A4.3020608@bigpond.net.au> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:55:00 +1000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (OS/2/20060727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Intel 2200bg and Windoze (was: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Status on WPA) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com from [147.10.172.143] using ID edurrant@bigpond.net.au at Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:55:06 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Will Honea wrote: > ** Reply to message from "Lewis G Rosenthal" > on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:36:58 -0400 > >> Considering IBM's involvement with Lenovo (IBM owns 18.9% of Lenovo), >> the statement that IBM has ditched its ThinkPad is a tad premature. All >> the new ThinkPads I've seen (and I've moved about a half dozen this past >> week) still say IBM on them, and these were models which came out after >> the handoff to Lenovo. >> >> IBM hasn't removed support information for older ThinkPads, either, and >> AFAIK, neither IBM nor Lenovo purposely breaks the BIOS so as to make it >> unusable with other OSes. The fact that the T43 BIOS update seems to >> disrupt GenMAC's ability to detect the PCI ID string is more than likely >> something within GenMAC, and not a deliberate attempt on the part of IBM >> or Lenovo to make the T43 "Windows-only." > > I have to go along with you on this. I've had the "pleasure" of refurbing > several 3-4 year old Thinkpads in the last couple of months and the Lenovov > site is, if anything, easier to use than the IBM pages. Even the support for > the older 600's and such is intact and there have been several recent BIOS > updates for older machines. Warranty service transitioned over seamlessly > (they actually seemed to be even more accomodating than the IBM crew, in fact). > This is interesting, while in the most part you are dealing with the same people ! The IBM PC division became the Lenovo worldwide agents and support as part of the sale, so in fact you are dealing with the same groups - they simply have a different badge now ! In Australia for example, Lenovo is located within the IBM buildings. Cheers/2 Ed.