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Od:	"Lewis G Rosenthal" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>	Glava Izvorno E-sporo?ilo
Zadeva:	Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Getting started with GenMac
Datum:	Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:08:40 -0500
Za:	OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>

On 11/01/06 11:50 am, Kris Steenhaut thus wrote : Lewis G Rosenthal ha scritto: Who said the difference was moot? I didn't. No need to get testy, Kris. Yes, there is a difference between SpeedStep and Enhanced SpeedStep. Actually, I don't give a damn whether is enhanced, vaporized, mass destructionized or whatever. The thing is, "it", whatever "it" is, it's obstructing the intel 2200b/g to workt properly with eCS machines. It's probably not just the 2200 cards, either, and there are differences between the power management versions. It would probably help the GenMAC and XWLAN teams if we could verify the behavior under different hardware combinations to determine what works and what doesn't. Until you brought it up, Kris, that wasn't at issue. Can I suggest you go out of your denial stage? I'm not denying anything, merely responding to your statement, "I should have written 'Enhanced Speedstep Technology'. And the difference isn't moot..." The discussion was about which models of ThinkPads support SpeedStep vs those which do not. I don't believe that we have narrowed this down to only the T4x machines, either, as I do see some odd dropout activity on the T30 I just rebuilt for my wife, with a 2200BG in it (I was not using that card when I was using the machine, but rather, the Cisco 350 PCMCIA). I "brouht it up" as you say because we sorted out the (enhanced) Speedstep thing is preventing the 2200b/g working properly on eCS machines. And most likely that's the source of other odd phenomena we have seen reported already. Due to the lack os a specific adapted system driver. The T30 is not the same version of Enhanced SpeedStep as the T4x series, so I don't believe that we have "sorted it out" as yet. I think instead that the data is still flowing in, albeit anecdotal in nature. http://www.bay-wolf.com/speedstep.htm I do agree the learned guys should have "brought" up this matter already over 6 months ago. But they didn't, and it is their mistake. No, it's not their mistake. They have a narrow beta group. I'm sure that these issues will be addressed in due time. Free software is usually worth what you pay for it. In our case, we've become spoiled due to the talent we seem to enjoy among our brethren. Let's not put blame on anyone, and instead do what we can to support the work which *is* being done, and acknowledge the generous gift of time and effort put forth on *our* behalf. Willibald isn't contractually bound to continue development of GenMAC. Likewise, neither is Christian for XWLAN, nor is Adrian for all the work he does staying on top of the projects at Netlabs. Instead, these people give freely of themselves for the good of the community. When I find a design flaw in my car, I get truly aggravated that with all the financial backing of General Motors (not to mention the sticker price on my 2006 Cadillac STS) these things should have somehow managed to make their way to the assembly line (and I'm not talking about little things like parts wearing out and other oddities which can only be observed over time). The difference is clear: when I pay for a product or service, I expect - and have a right to do so - that I am getting what I was promised. When I receive something for free, I don't look a gift horse in the mouth and complain that it's broken. Let's just try to narrow this issue down some more so that we can proceed in a logical manner toward providing a thorough and useful report, which will aid in the correction of the defect or a viable workaround for code over which none of us has any control (i.e., Intel). -- Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------ Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC Accountants / Network Consultants New York / Northern Virginia www.2rosenthals.com eComStation Consultants www.ecomstation.com Novell Users Int'l www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------

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