From: "Harry Travis" Received: from mxout4.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.168] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.1) with ESMTP id 117195 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:19:42 -0400 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout4.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fh6lR-000FPF-To for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:19:42 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fh6lR-000OKo-KS for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 19 May 2006 11:19:41 -0400 Received: from smtp.comcast.net (c-69-251-226-147.hsd1.md.comcast.net[69.251.226.147](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060519151920m1200462ite>; Fri, 19 May 2006 15:19:35 +0000 Reply-to: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:19:20 -0300 To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: OT: English Usage X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.67/60 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Message-ID: Confusion begets confusion: You will find that both "jib" and "jibe" are verbs for "shift from one side of the ship to the other." Accepted by some lexicographers, anyway, but it would be interesting to be able to get an instant reading from all sailors. As for "jive" vs "jibe": Blame it on cost control and early inadequate standards in the telecoms regulation that truncated bandwidth limited accurate transmission of verbal sibilants. [Not really, just a story.] Recorded music recovered from cassettes, and it will recover from mpeg compression, too. Our language, though,absorbs and evolves. said Harry, stirred by: "Julian Thomas" 's message of: Friday 19 May 06 at 10:35 AM, On: [OS2Wireless]Re: OT: English Usage [echoed below, at least in part] -oOo- In , on 05/19/06  at 09:38 AM, "Lewis G Rosenthal"  typed: >I tend to think of "jibe" as meaning a jest, and >"jive" as a meshing together. That said, even Merriam-Webster doesn't >define "jibe" (a variant of "gibe") as a meshing together, but rather >only as the more common jest. I think sailing, when the boat (or wind) turns so that the wind catches the trailing edge of the sail and whips it to the other side, sometimes quite violently.  HPT -- ----------------------------------------------------------- travis.dot.harry.trying.gmail.com DemostiX -----------------------------------------------------------