X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: 16138 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: os2-wireless_users-owner@2rosenthals.com Received: from 192.168.100.5 (hawking [192.168.100.5]) by 2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20051001153422-29323-7 ; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:34:22 -0400 (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20051001153420-4914-7 ; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:34:20 -0400 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELn8k-000F59-Pp for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:35:23 -0400 Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il ([194.90.9.21]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ELn8k-000B5o-JV for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:35:22 -0400 Received: from poblano ([217.132.24.187]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0INP0036752S8930@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:35:17 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <433EDCDE.5090804@hccnet.nl> Message-id: <0INP0036852S8930@mxout2.netvision.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Polarbar Mailer; version=1.25a; build=1965 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer-Platform: OS/2; architecture=x86; version=20.45 X-Mailer-Java-VM: IBM Corporation; version=JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-20010426 (JIT javax V3.5-IBMJDK1.1-20010426); compiler=javax References: <0MKoyl-1ELjuj16lj-0006MK@mrelay.perfora.net> <433EDCDE.5090804@hccnet.nl> X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 22:35:16 +0300 Sender: os2-wireless_users-owner X-Listname: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Reply-To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com From: Stan Goodman To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Subject: [OS2Wireless] VoIP on eCS X-List-Unsubscribe: Send email to mailusers-request@2rosenthals.com X-List-Owner: mailusers-owner@2rosenthals.com ** Reply to message from Kris Steenhaut on Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:00:46 +0200 > Hakan ha scritto: > > >Kris, > > > >Don't you pay to call people when you are calling a number which is not > >on the Skype network? According to skype.com it is approx. 2 cents per > >minute and you pay in advance with a credit card, said credit drawn > >down as you are using it for calls. By the way, this rate is only for > >a very limited number of countries and does /not/ include calling cell > >phone numbers in most countries. > > > My dear fellow, do allow me to inform somewhat, that is if you want to > be infoemed. > > Skyoe works in 2 ways. > > - As any other VOIP, that is, the other side then is "Skyped" too, and > than connection is as no costs. Assuming both sides are using DSL, ADSL > ... of course (with a diak-up connection to use Skype would be senseles > of course). > > - Or you can call to anyone in the World at highly reduced costs. For > instance, from Belgium to Kameroun for 10 euro instead of severall > hundreds of euro. And that's not hear-saying, it is a real life example > as I already wrote in an other group. > > And the highly reduced costs for long distance calls and international > _telephone_ calls is the very reason why Skype has become so popular. > > And that's why eCS's incapacity to run Skype is a big problem. And > even bigger a problem is the fact you guys don't want to ear it. You are getting annoyed for nothing; it is a matter of definition. There is Skype, and there is Skype Out, which is a supplement for making calls to the benighted millions that don't have a computer, or that don't have Skype installed on it. One can regard these as two services or as one, and in either case still be honest and sane. I don't think there is anybody here that doesn't know that Skype Out can reach those millions, or that is opposed to a possibility of running Skype or a similar service on OS/2. Some people have other solutions that they prefer, even to Skype; this is a phenomenon in the category of "Different strokes for different folks", also called "That's what makes horseracing". > BTW: And nom Skype doesn't make use of anyone's computer. I'm so happy to hear this.. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body (omit the quotes). For help with other commands, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "help" in the body (omit the quotes). This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=