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Date:  Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:08:40 -0400 (EDT)
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From:  "Hakan" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
To:  "os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
Subject: [OS2Wireless] VoIP on eCS

Kris,

Don't you pay to call people when you are calling a number which is not
on the Skype network?  According to skype.com it is approx. 2 cents per
minute and you pay in advance with a credit card, said credit drawn
down as you are using it for calls.  By the way, this rate is only for
a very limited number of countries and does /not/ include calling cell
phone numbers in most countries.  The cost for calling other countries
very much varies and is listed on their website.  Calling a cell phone
in Europe is quite expensive which is to be expected since the cell
phone owners do /not/ pay for incoming calls (in contrast to the U.S.
and Canada where incoming calls are charged for but the caller pays
exactly the same rate as for any other call.)

Skype has marketed itself in an amazing fashion, way outside what it
deserves from a business standpoint.  Repeating myself, Skype == hype.

There is no doubt that Skype's current business idea will be left
behind as VoIP solutions not requiring computers become more
commonplace.  Such offerings have been available in the U.S. for
probably two years, do exist in Europe, and today we saw Stan's message
that he just started using it in Israel.  I will grant Skype credit for
giving VoIP calling a higher profile, though, but as a long-term
business venture, forget about it.  Earlier this year, Skype itself
declared that they would develop their own telephone so that a computer
would no longer be needed, ultimately killing off their current
solution themselves.

Paul,

What do you pay to make calls to regular phones, both here and in
Europe?  How about calls to cell phones?


On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:38:18 +0200, Kris Steenhaut wrote:

>
>
>Paul Smedley ha scritto:
>
>> Well the advantage of the sipura type device is that you use your 
>> normal telephone and can dial ANY number - not just people who are 
>> running skype
>>
>>
>I know you don't want to hear it, but yes, with Skype you can dial to 
>ANY number, to anyone NOT HAVING a computer, to anyone just having a 
>regular telephone. And I know it coz I have done it . So, please don't 
>spread incorrect information. .
>
>Nevertheless, if I can take it for granted this faktorel thing can do 
>the very same as Skype and is installable in eCS, I wouldn't hesitate to 
>install it.
>
>So, question:
>
>1. Has the faktorel thingy the very same features as Skype?
>2. Is it installable in eCS just like that?
>
>-- 
>Groeten uit Gent,
>
>   Kris
>
>http://www.taartenbakkerij.com/bestanden/warpstock-europe-2005-dresden.jpg
>http://www.taartenbakkerij.com/bestanden/zum_weberplatz.jpg
>
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