X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: 7117 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: os2-wireless_users-owner@2rosenthals.com Received: from 192.168.100.5 (hawking [192.168.100.5]) by 2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20050817081734-10128-7 ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:17:34 -0400 (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20050817081733-47732-7 ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:17:33 -0400 Received: from mxin2.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.176]) by mxout1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1E5Mra-0004yp-Q3 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:17:47 -0400 Received: from mxout5.netvision.net.il ([194.90.9.29]) by mxin2.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1E5Mra-000EmX-Jn for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:17:46 -0400 Received: from poblano ([217.132.200.31]) by mxout5.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with SMTP id <0ILD00AI78T8LSG0@mxout5.netvision.net.il> for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:17:33 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20050817073318-6502-7@2rosenthals.com> Message-id: <0ILD00AI98T8LSG0@mxout5.netvision.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Polarbar Mailer; version=1.25a; build=1965 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer-Platform: OS/2; architecture=x86; version=20.45 X-Mailer-Java-VM: IBM Corporation; version=JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-20010426 (JIT javax V3.5-IBMJDK1.1-20010426); compiler=javax References: <0ILA007MQ31TTW70@mxout5.netvision.net.il> <20050817073318-6502-7@2rosenthals.com> X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:17:33 +0300 Sender: os2-wireless_users-owner X-Listname: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Reply-To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com From: Stan Goodman To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Subject: [OS2Wireless] Library of Congress is confused... X-List-Unsubscribe: Send email to mailusers-request@2rosenthals.com X-List-Owner: mailusers-owner@2rosenthals.com ** Reply to message from Howard Winter on Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:33:27 +0100 (BST) > Stan, > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:20:14 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: > > >...< > >Whereas in contrast, of course, there is somewhere on the planet a country > >whose legislators are all altruists who had public office thrust upon them, so > >that they didn't campaign, and who could not care less if they are reelected or > >not. > > Well Monarchies can be like that - you inherit the job without asking for it - but some famous former kings > were susceptible to the "power corrupts" problem. But still, a "Good King" (or Queen) is probably the best > political system I can think of - it's how you achieve it that is the problem! > > Cheers, To put it another way: As Winston Churchill said, "Democracy is the worst form of government .... except for all the others". European monarchies, for example, tend to be rather more benign than they were some centuries ago. One is inclined to believe that the reason for this is that the monarchs are all figureheads representing the sovereignty of the state, while the real _authority_ of the state resides in an elected legislature. That may be biassing your view of monarchies. But why inspect only European monarchies, seeing that there are examples of The Real Thing available, e.g. the one in Saudia, land of golden bathroom fixtures (if you are a prince of the Blood) and floggings (or worse), and where there are no women drivers making the few roads more hazardous for the guys. Saudia, of course, is an isolated example, because it has been a stable dynasty for decades. But it is in the nature of monarchies to experience what we now call "regime change" whenever possible (read your Shakespeare). Nowadays, those who arrange these changes no longer style themselves "kings", because the job title has gone out of fashion, and they call themselves "presidents", but the job _description_ remains the same, and they are monarchs as much as was Richard III or Josef Stalin. If you think it is A Good Thing to live in such a place, there are many for your to chose from, most in climates more mild than your own. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body (omit the quotes). For help with other commands, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "help" in the body (omit the quotes). This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=