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Date:  Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:04:41 +0200
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From:  Stan Goodman <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
To:  os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com
Subject: [OS2Wireless] PCMCIA, Cisco 352, and Thinkpad T21

** Reply to message from Christian Langanke <cla@clanganke.de> on Wed, 22 Dec
2004 21:17:36 +0100


> Stan,
> 
> Stan Goodman wrote:
> 
> >>... but I would not expect 
> >>that somebody would have no clue at all.
> >
> >I am very sorry that I gave you that impression, and apologize.
> >
> No reason for that, if the impression was wrong, then it was just a 
> misconception. You (and everybody else) would have more reason to 
> apologize if you just had not read anything before asking ;-) as the 
> list is for to help on the topic, but not for to repeat all existing 
> documentation.

Actually, my main worry had little or nothing to do with your utility. What
scared me, and what I had trouble resolving from conversations here (and from
those I "overheard") was that there might be more to the process than what
could be done with just the driver + XWLAN. Some other bit of software that I
should install perhaps, but didn't know about. That's pretty well out of the
way by now. As for your utility, there is nothing wrong with the documentation
that I could see; it's quite thorough. I have an aesthetic comment which I will
write you about off this forum.

> >As to your paragraph above, I would have liked to perform the experiments that
> >you mention, e.g. try to connect to a hotspot, but I am limited somewhat by the
> >fact that I don't yet have the Cisco card in hand. 
> >
> Oh no, then I am sorry for you !! (Must be a pain ;-) ) Did not read 
> that anywhere in a posting (did I miss a part of the thread ?) then I 
> would have to apologize. But you know, OTOH not all postings really stay 
> on topic (don't mean yours here, some others turn out to ask for lessons 
> in OS/2 GUI handling), so it is quite difficult to know what postings 
> are important...
> 
> >It is waiting for me abroad,
> >and I have been trying to get things set up to the greatest extent possible,
> >given this limitation, because it will be hard for me to do so once I put the
> >card in, try to connect to a LAN, find that I can't do so, and have no other
> >machine handy, wired or not, with which to consult this group. 
> >
> Understood. But if you never used WLAN, this will likely not work. Even 
> if everything works, you can easily fail for no obvious reasons (for 
> you). My advice is (if possible) to get in touch with somebody showing 
> it to you, meeting with two notebooks where a public hotspot is 
> available. But yes, I know, here in Germany (especially where I live) 
> distances are mostly not that huge, so it may not work for you.

Someone did suggest making contact with a friend of his who is in the area that
I will be visiting, and I intend to do that as well.

> >As I have said
> >previously, I am sure that my efforts, questions, and doubts may make me see
> >paranoiac (substitute another word if you wish), but that is the prospect I
> >have been trying to avoid by prior preparation. I think I have done so, and
> >believe/hope that things will work when I have the card and an available
> >wireless LAN. In addition to that, as far as I know (and as far as the hotspot
> >list at <ttp://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/> tells me, the nearest hotspot
> >or otherwise available to me wireless LAN is not closer than 100km from me --
> >not really convenient.
> >
> For the hotspots you need nothing else than the hotspot menu item in 
> most cases. And the TCP/IP stack best would be configured to nothing 
> (neither the cabled nor the wireless interface configured to _anything_) 
> for such a first test.

OK
 
> For everything else you should think about using WLAN also at your home. 
> With an own access point testing is easily, and with it you would test 
> and use encryption - this will give you a far better understanding of 
> the whole issue. Ok, that may be not for free, but I was told the 
> Netgear MR314 (is a 2.4 ghz 802.11b device) costs less than 20$ at some 
> places in the US - I used this for years now. Such devices should also 
> be well affordable over ebay and such.

The home LAN has fixed IP addresses. I am a firm believer in "If it ain't
broke, don't fix it". Anyway, by the time I come back to the home LAN, I will
already have worked out the kinks in the notebook WiFi, and the convenience of
wireless in the home won't mean anything anymore. 

http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?sh=1&dir=//pub/os2/system/drivers/network
> >
> Got it. Unfortunately I have to work next week, but hopefully I have 
> some time left. The upload of the WEP keys to the card is BTW not a good 
> idea, as then you cannot connect to an unsecured access point. And I 
> would consider it being inconvenient to boot twice for switching from a 
> public AP to my private WEP secured one...

Understood.

Thank you...

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

"When your enemy falls, do not rejoice." -- Proverbs 24:17

"A true friend stabs you in front." -- Oscar Wilde
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