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Date:  Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:17:36 +0100
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From:  Christian Langanke <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
To:  os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com
Subject: [OS2Wireless] PCMCIA, Cisco 352, and Thinkpad T21

Stan,

Stan Goodman wrote:

>>... but I would not expect 
>>that somebody would have no clue at all.
>>    
>>
>
>I am very sorry that I gave you that impression, and apologize.
>
No reason for that, if the impression was wrong, then it was just a 
misconception. You (and everybody else) would have more reason to 
apologize if you just had not read anything before asking ;-) as the 
list is for to help on the topic, but not for to repeat all existing 
documentation.

>As to your paragraph above, I would have liked to perform the experiments that
>you mention, e.g. try to connect to a hotspot, but I am limited somewhat by the
>fact that I don't yet have the Cisco card in hand. 
>
Oh no, then I am sorry for you !! (Must be a pain ;-) ) Did not read 
that anywhere in a posting (did I miss a part of the thread ?) then I 
would have to apologize. But you know, OTOH not all postings really stay 
on topic (don't mean yours here, some others turn out to ask for lessons 
in OS/2 GUI handling), so it is quite difficult to know what postings 
are important...

>It is waiting for me abroad,
>and I have been trying to get things set up to the greatest extent possible,
>given this limitation, because it will be hard for me to do so once I put the
>card in, try to connect to a LAN, find that I can't do so, and have no other
>machine handy, wired or not, with which to consult this group. 
>
Understood. But if you never used WLAN, this will likely not work. Even 
if everything works, you can easily fail for no obvious reasons (for 
you). My advice is (if possible) to get in touch with somebody showing 
it to you, meeting with two notebooks where a public hotspot is 
available. But yes, I know, here in Germany (especially where I live) 
distances are mostly not that huge, so it may not work for you.

>As I have said
>previously, I am sure that my efforts, questions, and doubts may make me see
>paranoiac (substitute another word if you wish), but that is the prospect I
>have been trying to avoid by prior preparation. I think I have done so, and
>believe/hope that things will work when I have the card and an available
>wireless LAN. In addition to that, as far as I know (and as far as the hotspot
>list at <ttp://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/> tells me, the nearest hotspot
>or otherwise available to me wireless LAN is not closer than 100km from me --
>not really convenient.
>
For the hotspots you need nothing else than the hotspot menu item in 
most cases. And the TCP/IP stack best would be configured to nothing 
(neither the cabled nor the wireless interface configured to _anything_) 
for such a first test.

For everything else you should think about using WLAN also at your home. 
With an own access point testing is easily, and with it you would test 
and use encryption - this will give you a far better understanding of 
the whole issue. Ok, that may be not for free, but I was told the 
Netgear MR314 (is a 2.4 ghz 802.11b device) costs less than 20$ at some 
places in the US - I used this for years now. Such devices should also 
be well affordable over ebay and such.

>http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?sh=1&dir=//pub/os2/system/drivers/network
>
Got it. Unfortunately I have to work next week, but hopefully I have 
some time left. The upload of the WEP keys to the card is BTW not a good 
idea, as then you cannot connect to an unsecured access point. And I 
would consider it being inconvenient to boot twice for switching from a 
public AP to my private WEP secured one...

bye, Christian

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Christian Langanke
COS2E & CWSE
Team OS/2 Ruhr e.V.
cla@clanganke.de

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