X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: 38855 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: os2-wireless_users-owner@2rosenthals.com Received: from 192.168.100.5 (hawking [192.168.100.5]) by 2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20041221151100-54318-7 ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:11:00 -0500 (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20041221151059-23818-7 ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:10:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.170]) by mxout3.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CgqM0-000GcB-Sh for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:11:33 -0500 Received: from mxout4.netvision.net.il ([194.90.9.27]) by mx1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CgqM0-000OO2-Lq for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:11:32 -0500 Received: from poblano ([212.235.81.211]) by mxout4.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.02 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0I9300DPR9EIMM@mxout4.netvision.net.il> for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:11:12 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <41C87B67.3040804@clanganke.de> Message-id: <0I9300DPS9EIMM@mxout4.netvision.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Polarbar Mailer; version=1.25a; build=1965 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer-Platform: OS/2; architecture=x86; version=20.45 X-Mailer-Java-VM: IBM Corporation; version=JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-20010426 (JIT javax V3.5-IBMJDK1.1-20010426); compiler=javax References: <0I8V00MBU4RH83@mxout5.netvision.net.il> <41C43D5F.3060604@clanganke.de> <0I8X00DITBN02B50@mxout1.netvision.net.il> <41C87B67.3040804@clanganke.de> X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:11:06 +0200 Sender: os2-wireless_users-owner X-Listname: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Reply-To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com From: Stan Goodman To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Subject: [OS2Wireless] PCMCIA, Cisco 352, and Thinkpad T21 X-List-Unsubscribe: Send email to mailusers-request@2rosenthals.com X-List-Owner: mailusers-owner@2rosenthals.com ** Reply to message from Christian Langanke on Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:37:11 +0100 > Stan Goodman wrote: > > >>I'd say, RTFM, so see the INF file, section usage. > >> > >> > > > >That's one of the least attractive sets of initials in the industry.. > > > Maybe, but don't ask me, I did not invent it. Sorry, but you gave well > the impression that you did not know anything of what is documented. > After all you said something like "I installed the driver, it is > recognized by XWLAN, now what ?". I then would have expected that a user > would at least try to connect to a hotspot, and yes, read the manual > about that. Same for connection profiles., where all dialogs have their > own context sensitive help panel. I would well expect that questions are > left when having read through the usage section, but I would not expect > that somebody would have no clue at all. I am very sorry that I gave you that impression, and apologize. At the moment, I am more confident than I was about understanding the process and the software, thanks to remarks by several of the other users here. As to your paragraph above, I would have liked to perform the experiments that you mention, e.g. try to connect to a hotspot, but I am limited somewhat by the fact that I don't yet have the Cisco card in hand. It is waiting for me abroad, and I have been trying to get things set up to the greatest extent possible, given this limitation, because it will be hard for me to do so once I put the card in, try to connect to a LAN, find that I can't do so, and have no other machine handy, wired or not, with which to consult this group. As I have said previously, I am sure that my efforts, questions, and doubts may make me see paranoiac (substitute another word if you wish), but that is the prospect I have been trying to avoid by prior preparation. I think I have done so, and believe/hope that things will work when I have the card and an available wireless LAN. In addition to that, as far as I know (and as far as the hotspot list at tells me, the nearest hotspot or otherwise available to me wireless LAN is not closer than 100km from me -- not really convenient. > > >Anyway, So far I have no problem with XWLAN or its documentation. My questions > >are about the entire process, and about any additional steps that have to be > >taken outside of the driver -- widget combination. So far, it seems that I am > >on the right track, because several points have been raised both here and in an > >NG that seem to be helpful, but unlikely to be in the widget's documentation. I > >would not be surprised if there are more such in the checklist that has been > >promised. > > > Hmm, what I take from this is that there is no getting "started > section". I am afraid though, that this would contain a lot of links to > the existing help pages, but yes, it would help getting into the matter > more easily. > > If we can work out a list of what should be in there, I will be glad to > include it. It may also make sense to just refer to the FAQ Lewis > intends to create. With checklist I assume you mean this FAQ? A couplel of people have said that they have, or will generate, a list of steps that they go through during a planned new install with equipment much like mine. I would like to see that. That's pretty much what I meant by checklist. > > >For example I was told yesterday in ecomstation. support.networking that it > >would be a good idea to run the Cisco 340 driver from Hobbes before changing to > >the Beta driver that supports XWLAN, in order to get the benefit of WEP. That > >would not have been in your INF file. > > > Somebody please tell me how this can be done. I mean, AFAIK an upload of > WEP keys cannot survive a reboot, and this would be necessary if XWLAN > cannot be used to switch between drivers. How can that work ? Has > somebodday reading this list tried it (please post with explicit subject !) > > And please someone pass me a pointer to that driver, I would be glad to > get that to work. It nevertheless may well be that the old driver cannot > be properly integrated ewith XWLAN, as certain parts of the driver > interface may be missing... http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?sh=1&dir=//pub/os2/system/drivers/network > > bye, Christian -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel "When your enemy falls, do not rejoice." -- Proverbs 24:17 Imitation is the sincerest form of plagiarism. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body (omit the quotes). For help with other commands, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "help" in the body (omit the quotes). This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=