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Zadeva: [OS2Wireless] [OT] Re: Flashing Wi-Fi cards under OS/2
Datum: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:23:04 -0400
Za: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has had to deal with boneheaded firmware distributions, Michael. Insofar as IBM is concerned, whoever told them that anything was needed beyond the nice bound executables they've been producing for over ten years? For my whitebox machines (I mostly deal AOpen hardware for the desktop, which is - for the most part - fairly OS/2-friendly, except with some of the newer SiS-based boards), AOpen has jumped on the "pretty, GUI, flash update" bandwagon with their releases of "WinFlash" bundles... :-(  I mean, hey, what's the big deal about stoicking in the disk, building the floppy image, leaving it in the drive, and rebooting?

Even Compaq servers use a Win-GUI (self-booting, though) for flash updates, but there's a lot more going on there than just updating the firmware with a 248K image. My IBM Netfinity 4000R has a neat update procedure: download the image & burn it on CD (the 4000R has no floppy, though I suppose it could support a USB one); boot the system from the CD and away it goes (I haven't looked recently, but I think it's PC-DOS).

Odin is fine for running certain apps, as is VPC, but you just can't trust Odin to flash firmware, and VPC couldn't see the real hardware if you wanted it to. It's getting to the point where one actually has to have some real Win installation just to do this kind of stuff. Now, a self-booting Win CD (not an installer, but a full, running Win OS, ŕ la to Knoppix)...that would be a handy thing (you know, so you could shelve it after the flash).

No problem for the OT post...this whole thread is OT!! ;-)

Michael Warmuth wrote:

Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:

Most of the time, I just sigh and reboot to Wintendo to do firmware flashing of different things, as most manufacturers provide a little Win app to handle that. I'm interested to hear of any brave soul's (or souls') experience(s) with flashing under OS/2, either using TFTP or some other method.

[...]

I second that! There must be a large bunch of monkeys out there, escaped from some strange kind of labor, making distribution packages for all IT companies in the dumbest way possible.

My flash experience with the IBM wireless miniPCI card reads as follows:

+ Downloaded a Win-only package

+ Started/extracted it using ODIN and did let it expand it's content and then waiting afterward.

+ Looked into the %TEMP% directory structure I recognized that there is a floppy disk image sitting around.

+ Expanded this image to a floppy disk using DSK4PM.

+ Closed the Win-only program.

+ Booted with the floppy in the USB floppy drive.

+ Saw the program flashing the card (I think so, as I haven't checked the versions afterward).


The blown up Win distribution does nothing else then to extract some files from this disk image, and then reboot the computer into DOS mode to flash the card. Who the hell does believe that it isn't necessary to publish the disk image stand alone.


And another good example to prove my monkey theory are the various driver packages for OS/2 (or multi platform) in an Win only self extracting archive (not possible to run unzip against).

Sorry for this off topic rant, but you did press the button...

Michael


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