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From: "Carl Gehr" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> Full Headers
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Subject: OS/2 Wireless Users List: Re: Hibernation/Suspend [Was: new ThinkPad 8...]
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 22:31:21 est5edt
To: "os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>

Please see interspersed comments...
CG

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:01:58 est5edt, Oliver Mark wrote:

>
>Carl,
>yes and no. First of all, you need to have the latest IBM2SS14 from the
>PCCard-package off DDpak. It's a SWC feature, but with eCS protection, you
>should also get it.
>Trick here is to use ONLY the driver, you don't need the rest - actually
>you "downgrade" a few things, if you use the whole package. So, just unzip
>and copy IBM2SS14 to your boot-drive.

The copy I have is:
Directory of C:\os2
3-20-02   2:30p     29069           0  IBM2SS14.SYS

Is there a later one?  This one fails to load.  I don't remember the
exact message, but it has been consistent.  This one came from the
PCCard R5 package on eComStation.Com.

>
>With the Hibernation: It's right, that you cannot write the hibernation
>file to a HPFS or NTFS partition, and we don't want to do this !!
>You need to have Free space, where the utility creates a FAT16 partition
>for you to store the hibernation file in. Unfortunately, this space needs
>to be within the 1023 cylinder restriction.
>So, you OS (OS/2, eCS, NT, whatever) can boot off from whatever
>filesystems, the Hibernation file itself needs to be FAT.

Someone should reword the restrictions then to be more clear about
*which* partition must be FAT.

I have some space left on the HD, but I'm not sure exactly where on the
48GB there is space.  I'm afraid it is toward the end, but inside of a
Logical Partition with the rest of the OS/2 drives.

>
>I don't understand the issue with the Bootmanager. Actually it hibernates
>fine with Bootmanager on my T23. So, you shoulg give it a try.

I have no idea why the statement is made.
Has anyone else used this utility on an A-Series TPad
*and* with BootManager?

>
>For the Bluetooth stuff, you are right. I talked to a few people and
>actually, it would not be really difficult.  Someone to give 5k $ and
>you'll get it.

Surely there are a few hundred people who will contribute $25 or so...


>For the Lucent stuff: The driver for the chip used in the T20 was released
>a few weeks ago and work for the newer chip is in plan (Did I just say that
>?? No, I didn't, right ?!).

I just tried the new release.  Same result as always:
"Modem does not respond..."
Can you provide some details about setup strings that should be used
for this thing?  I use the AT&T Dialer and I have tried using:
* The same profile as my PCCard X-Jack
* The only "Lucent..." modem profile that is in the list.
* Generic modem.
All results are the same.

I also tried using the "Find the modem." function of the Dialer.  It
found my PCCard modem on COM2, but found nothing on COM1.

There is a comment in the Install Cmd, that indicates it is supposed
to:
"/* Create the icon in the 'System Setup' Folder */"
I can see no indication that anything new has been added to the System
Setup folder.  The Config.Sys is updated with:

>REM   LTMDMOS2 install - The device=ltmdmos2.sys line must come prior
>REM   to the device=com.sys line
>DEVICE=C:\os2\boot\ltmdmos2.sys
>RUN=C:\os2\boot\lt_mon.exe

as the first four lines.
And:

>Directory of C:\os2\boot
> 2-13-03   5:35p    366220           0  ltmdmos2.sys

is the driver that is loaded.

So, I'm not sure where to go from here.  I just know that it remains as
a worthless feature so far, and I've tried every option that has been
suggested for over a year now.  I have FIVE different variations on
this file dating from 8-25-99.

Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

>
>
>
>
>
>On 29.03.2003 12.07.02, "Carl Gehr" wrote in OS/2 Wireless Users List: Re:
>Hibernation/Suspend [Was:  new ThinkPad 8...]:
>>Oliver,
>>
>>I have an A30p.  The IBM2SS14 driver will not load on this system.
>>I've tried numerous times.  I have to use SS2PCIC1 instead.  [I use an
>>X-Jack PCCard modem, but the Ethernet and wireless are on a built-in
>>combo card.]
>>
>>The description of
>>"Hibernation utility diskette II for standalone boot"
>>on the IBM TPad Support site states that hibernation and suspend are
>>not supported for OS/2 *unless* you have the FAT file system.  Since
>>eCS requires HPFS and most OS/2 users want HPFS for performance, etc.,
>>that rules it out.  It also lists supported models:
>>>- T20(*4), T21(*4), T22(*4), T23(*4)(*2)
>>>- T30(*2)(*4)
>>>- T40(*2)(*4), T40p(*5)
>>The two footnotes:
>>> - *2: Windows 95 is not supported.
>>> - *4: OS/2 is supported.
>>> - OS/2 with FAT file system
>>>NOTE:
>>>Supported OS depends on ThinkPad models.
>>>
>>>Ref:
>>>http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4PESMK
>>
>>And, under "Power Management" on the T-series TPad driver matrix page,
>>the Standalone Hibernation Utility is the only topic with OS/2 listed.
>>
>>On the A-Series matrix, Power Management - Hibernation, there is also
>>the following:
>>
>>>Limitations:
>>>- Hibernation function does not work when OS/2 Boot Manager is installed.
>>>- Hibernation function does not work with NTFS/HPFS file systems.
>>
>>Again, the elimination of Boot Manager is another function-killer.
>>And, HPFS is mentioned again here.
>>
>>Certainly, if you have other information, I'm sure there are a lot of
>>people who would like to hear it.  I am already using the T-Series
>>support for the builtin LAN combo card even though it is not suppose to
>>be supported.  And, the PRISM support that Jens provided supports the
>>802.11b feature. But, the Bluetooth and the Lucent modem [if you want
>>to be generous and call it a modem] are still excess baggage that are
>>totally useless on this system under OS/2.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:36:09 est5edt, Oliver Mark wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Charles,
>>>both still work like a charme.
>>>For suspend, you need to have the right driver versions, e.g. IBM2SS14
>and
>>>for hibernate, you need to
>>>enable it with the "Standalone Hibernation Diskette" (can be found from
>the
>>>thinkpad DD Matrix).
>>>
>>>
>>>On 28.03.2003 14.24.36, "Carl Gehr" wrote in OS/2 Wireless Users List:
>new
>>>ThinkPad 8:
>>>>Charles,
>>>>
>>>>On my old TPad 380-XD, where suspend still worked with OS/2, the "Fn"
>>>>key used to also bring it back to life.  But, it seems like it depended
>>>>on whether it was in "suspend" or in "hibernate" mode.  Neither seems
>>>>to work with OS/2 any more.  Both used to work and I miss them!
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>
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