X-UIDL: 1243 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: os2-wireless_users-owner@2rosenthals.com Received: from mail.2rosenthals.com (localhost [127.0.0.1] ) by mail.2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:01:59 -0500 Received: from mail1.no-ip.com (goodyear.vitalwerks.com [63.210.163.179] ) by mail.2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:01:58 -0500 X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 31559 invoked by uid 89); 29 Mar 2003 18:02:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO d12lmsgate.de.ibm.com) (194.196.100.234) by mail1.no-ip.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 18:02:19 -0000 Received: from d12relay02.de.ibm.com (d12relay02.de.ibm.com [9.165.215.23]) by d12lmsgate.de.ibm.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2TI25So036288 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:02:05 +0100 Received: from d12ml009.de.ibm.com (d12ml009_cs0 [9.165.223.37]) by d12relay02.de.ibm.com (8.12.8/NCO/VER6.5) with ESMTP id h2TI24Y8251168 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:02:04 +0100 Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D12ML009/12/M/IBM(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 29/03/2003 19:02:04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:01:58 est5edt X-OldDate: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:44:47 +0100 Sender: os2-wireless_users-owner X-Listname: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Reply-To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com From: "Oliver Mark" To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Subject: OS/2 Wireless Users List: Re: Hibernation/Suspend [Was: new ThinkPad 8...] X-List-Unsubscribe: Send email to mailusers-request@2rosenthals.com X-List-Owner: mailusers-owner@2rosenthals.com Carl, yes and no. First of all, you need to have the latest IBM2SS14 from the PCCard-package off DDpak. It's a SWC feature, but with eCS protection, you should also get it. Trick here is to use ONLY the driver, you don't need the rest - actually you "downgrade" a few things, if you use the whole package. So, just unzip and copy IBM2SS14 to your boot-drive. With the Hibernation: It's right, that you cannot write the hibernation file to a HPFS or NTFS partition, and we don't want to do this !! You need to have Free space, where the utility creates a FAT16 partition for you to store the hibernation file in. Unfortunately, this space needs to be within the 1023 cylinder restriction. So, you OS (OS/2, eCS, NT, whatever) can boot off from whatever filesystems, the Hibernation file itself needs to be FAT. I don't understand the issue with the Bootmanager. Actually it hibernates fine with Bootmanager on my T23. So, you shoulg give it a try. For the Bluetooth stuff, you are right. I talked to a few people and actually, it would not be really difficult. Someone to give 5k $ and you'll get it. For the Lucent stuff: The driver for the chip used in the T20 was released a few weeks ago and work for the newer chip is in plan (Did I just say that ?? No, I didn't, right ?!). On 29.03.2003 12.07.02, "Carl Gehr" wrote in OS/2 Wireless Users List: Re: Hibernation/Suspend [Was: new ThinkPad 8...]: >Oliver, > >I have an A30p. The IBM2SS14 driver will not load on this system. >I've tried numerous times. I have to use SS2PCIC1 instead. [I use an >X-Jack PCCard modem, but the Ethernet and wireless are on a built-in >combo card.] > >The description of >"Hibernation utility diskette II for standalone boot" >on the IBM TPad Support site states that hibernation and suspend are >not supported for OS/2 *unless* you have the FAT file system. Since >eCS requires HPFS and most OS/2 users want HPFS for performance, etc., >that rules it out. It also lists supported models: >>- T20(*4), T21(*4), T22(*4), T23(*4)(*2) >>- T30(*2)(*4) >>- T40(*2)(*4), T40p(*5) >The two footnotes: >> - *2: Windows 95 is not supported. >> - *4: OS/2 is supported. >> - OS/2 with FAT file system >>NOTE: >>Supported OS depends on ThinkPad models. >> >>Ref: >>http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4PESMK > >And, under "Power Management" on the T-series TPad driver matrix page, >the Standalone Hibernation Utility is the only topic with OS/2 listed. > >On the A-Series matrix, Power Management - Hibernation, there is also >the following: > >>Limitations: >>- Hibernation function does not work when OS/2 Boot Manager is installed. >>- Hibernation function does not work with NTFS/HPFS file systems. > >Again, the elimination of Boot Manager is another function-killer. >And, HPFS is mentioned again here. > >Certainly, if you have other information, I'm sure there are a lot of >people who would like to hear it. I am already using the T-Series >support for the builtin LAN combo card even though it is not suppose to >be supported. And, the PRISM support that Jens provided supports the >802.11b feature. But, the Bluetooth and the Lucent modem [if you want >to be generous and call it a modem] are still excess baggage that are >totally useless on this system under OS/2. > >Carl > >On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:36:09 est5edt, Oliver Mark wrote: > >> >>Charles, >>both still work like a charme. >>For suspend, you need to have the right driver versions, e.g. IBM2SS14 and >>for hibernate, you need to >>enable it with the "Standalone Hibernation Diskette" (can be found from the >>thinkpad DD Matrix). >> >> >>On 28.03.2003 14.24.36, "Carl Gehr" wrote in OS/2 Wireless Users List: new >>ThinkPad 8: >>>Charles, >>> >>>On my old TPad 380-XD, where suspend still worked with OS/2, the "Fn" >>>key used to also bring it back to life. But, it seems like it depended >>>on whether it was in "suspend" or in "hibernate" mode. Neither seems >>>to work with OS/2 any more. Both used to work and I miss them! >>> >>>Carl > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >steward@2rosenthals.com with the command >"unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body >(omit the quotes). > >For help with other commands, send a message >to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command >"help" in the body (omit the quotes). > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body (omit the quotes). For help with other commands, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "help" in the body (omit the quotes). =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=