X-UIDL: 1023 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: os2-wireless_users-owner@2rosenthals.com Received: from mail.2rosenthals.com (localhost [127.0.0.1] ) by mail.2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:53:59 -0500 Received: from mail1.no-ip.com (goodyear.vitalwerks.com [63.210.163.179] ) by mail.2rosenthals.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:53:58 -0500 X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 17058 invoked by uid 89); 26 Mar 2003 04:54:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MAIL03.toast.net) (206.244.185.10) by mail1.no-ip.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2003 04:54:17 -0000 Received: from 2rosenthals.com (unverified [24.47.134.13]) by MAIL03.toast.net (Vircom SMTPRS 2.0.241) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3E813269.9000804@2rosenthals.com> Organization: Rosenthal & Rosenthal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.3b; MultiZilla v1.3.1 (a)) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200303251440_MC3-1-311C-250A@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <200303251440_MC3-1-311C-250A@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:53:58 est5edt X-OldDate: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:54:01 -0500 Sender: os2-wireless_users-owner X-Listname: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Reply-To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com From: Lewis G Rosenthal To: os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com Subject: OS/2 Wireless Users List: new ThinkPad 8 X-List-Unsubscribe: Send email to mailusers-request@2rosenthals.com X-List-Owner: mailusers-owner@2rosenthals.com My pleasure. ;-) You know, ten years ago, I'd have agreed that integrated components could be cause for concern. However, we need to remember a couple things (obviously, this guy has no clue): * Today, almost all machines have integarted hardware. The newer chipsets support audio and video internally, and desktop machines include embedded LAN, USB, IDE, floppy, SCSI (in some cases), FireWire, etc. How many add-on boards are required anymore? 99% of all workstations we deploy have 3 or 4 PCI slots, a vacant AGP slot, and that funky little ACP slot on the end for a half-brain-dead Win modem to plug in. All of these slots are empty, because the essentials are onboard. * Notebooks, by there very nature, are integrated devices. If your display panel fails, luckily you have an external port to plug in a supplemental monitor. However, in most cases, it's not feasible to run the machine with the display panel disconnected and removed for service, so the whole unit goes out. Ditto for any of the ports failing (end users can't very well desolder the UART, put the machine back together, use it until they find a replacement chip, and then open it up again to solder it into place - I've done it, but that doesn't count...). The only real drawback I see to the miniPCI is that there's only one slot (unless the T40's will have two). In mine, I have an Intel LAN/modem combo card. I guess if the new ones will ship with a wired/wireless combo, that would work (the Winmodem circuitry is for the birds, anyway; my trusty Megahertz 56K blows it away under all OSes I've run). There's also a lot to be said about not having that funny "ear" sticking out of the side of the machine (the wireless antenna). One of these days, I swear I'm going to snap the thing off! Charles McCallister wrote: >Lewis, > > > > For wireless, I believe the antenna > > connector plugs in > > >I figured this would be the way these adapters worked, also thinking the >connectors may be something like internal slip-in batteries with a push >fit, or something. Some dude on a CIS Comm forum was dis'ing the concept >of having the wireless components integrated on the m/b in the event of >failure implying you'd have to return the m/b for service. I suggested >that in the interim you could always use a PCMCIA wireless adapter until >you found a temporary replacement and then send in your unit, but.... > >Anyway, thanks for the tutorial. > > > Charles > [13:22 CT, 25-Mar-03] > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >steward@2rosenthals.com with the command >"unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body >(omit the quotes). > >For help with other commands, send a message >to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command >"help" in the body (omit the quotes). > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > > -- Lewis --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA Rosenthal & Rosenthal : Accountants / Network Consultants New York / Northern Virginia : www.2rosenthals.com Novell Users International : www.whytheylie.com OS/2's new face is eComStation : www.ecomstation.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- This OS/2 system (Apollo) uptime is 0 days 14:57 hours and 26 seconds =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to steward@2rosenthals.com with the command "unsubscribe os2-wireless_users" in the body (omit the quotes). 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