X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: 138854 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 5.1.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Precedence: list Message-ID: Reply-To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Sender: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" X-Original-Message-ID: <11856.10.24.22.30.11.2007@shana.> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:23:55 -0500 From: "Leon D. Zetekoff" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080807000703080303070404" Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Xbox 802.11b/g (2.4GHz) interference (was: Re: [OS2Wireless] First large-scale 802.11n wireless LAN...) --------------080807000703080303070404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * Lewis G Rosenthal wrote, On 11/29/2007 9:01 PM: > On 11/29/07 05:32 pm, Leon D. Zetekoff thus wrote : >> * Lewis G Rosenthal wrote, On 11/29/2007 3:14 PM: >> > >>> Leon, your point about using subchannels is moot when discussing >>> client connections to an AP. Between carrier grade AP's, yes, but >>> I've never seen a client with the ability to use subchannels (and >>> that's not part of the 802.11b or g specs, AFAIK). >> let's rephrase that subchannels are not in consumer off-shelf >> equipment. We use APs and clients all the time with subchannels. >> it does seem MS has some issues they need to address but for the most >> part noise in the 2.4 band is not going to go away but get worse so >> getting away from the consumer grade equipment will help the >> situation a little as well as give you more channels to work with. >> > How do you get away from consumer grade equipment when Intel 3945AGN > adapters (et. seq.) *are* consumer grade? I agree that the > interference isn't going away; I think the answer on the client side > is attenuation, either by cleverly designed reflectors/deflectors, > supplementary antennae, or by some type of discreet software > filtering. That said, I'm *not* a radio guy, so perhaps someone with > more HAM experience may want to chime in here. > has nothing to do with ham or not...it depends on the firmware running on those interfaces as well. The ubiquiti (and others) radio cards do support subchannels and the OS being used does as well. Noise is noise whether it is from a wideband signal over a narrower signal but when you do move to a subchannel, it is like putting a filter in place; not totally but pretty much close to it. leon -- *Leon Zetekoff* Proprietor *Work:* 484-335-9920 *Mobile:* 610-223-8642 *Fax:* 484-335-9921 *Email:* wa4zlw@arrl.net *http://www.linkedin.com/in/leonzetekoff* *BackWoods Wireless* 505 B Main Street Blandon, PA 19510 "Bringing Broadband Technology to Rural Areas" See who we know in common Want a signature like this? --------------080807000703080303070404 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="wa4zlw.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wa4zlw.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Leon Zetekoff n:Zetekoff;Leon org:BackWoods Wireless adr;dom:;;505 B Main Street;Blandon;PA;19510 email;internet:wa4zlw@arrl.net title:Owner tel;work:484-335-9920 tel;fax:484-335-9921 tel;home:610-916-0230 tel;cell:610-223-8642 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.backwoodswireless.net version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080807000703080303070404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --------------080807000703080303070404--