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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:45:20 -0800
From: "Mark Henigan" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com>
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Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] OT ISP behavior (was: Wired woes - Marvell
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Lewis G Rosenthal wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:44:51 -0500
>  "Julian Thomas" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote:
> 
>> In <list-1500362@2rosenthals.com>, on 11/25/07   at 01:19 PM, "Mark 
>> Henigan" <os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> typed:
>>
>>> 1. Is the idea of obtaining domain names through
>>> large ISPs such as SBC-Yahoo! more fantasy than
>>> reality?
>>
>>
>> Somewhere in between; usually a bad idea. 
>>
>>> 2. What must I do to gain ownership or a
>>> legitimate lease on "my" domain name?
>>
>>
>> Best bet is to register it yourself. I like pairnic.com - godaddy.com has
>> mixed reviews and is probably cheaper.
>>
> If you sign up for an account at http://domains.2rosenthals.com, our 
> pricing is pretty good. We resell for Wild West (who owns - or is owned 
> by - GoDaddy these days).
> 
>>> 3. Do I need to consider obtaining a fixed
>>> Internet address and operating my own email
>>> server?
>>
>>
>> Probably not a good idea unless you are an internet security wizard.
>>
> Depends upon what you need to do and for how many sites. Also, you can 
> run servers behind dynamic addresses. The problem is that many mail 
> servers reject mail coming from dynamic hosts, so you'll not only need a 
> dynamic DNS provider (such as dyndns.com) but you'll also probably want 
> a smarthost to relay your outgoing mail for you (dyndns.com offers this 
> service, as do I). I can also host mail/web/ftp for you, including MySQL 
> and PHP.
> 
>> You can create an entry level web hosting account at pair.com for (I
>> think) $6.95/month; less if you pay quarterly or annually) and a modest
>> setup fee. This gives you a number of email addresses which can either be
>> redirected somewhere else, or accessed using POP3 or IMAP or a webmail
>> interface.
>>
> These prices are extremely low. Again, if all you need is basic hosting, 
> then something like this might be the best way to go...
> 
> 
>> Full disclosure: I have created a number of websites for various clients
>> and almost all of them are hosted by pair.com.
>>
> Good reference, Julian; thanks for passing it along!
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Full disclosure: Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC does not offer hosting 
> services to the general public. We do provide such services to our 
> clients (and by extension, to any of the list subscribers, here). If 
> anyone would like cost quotations and details, please contact me via 
> private mail (lgrosenthal at the domain hosting this list).

First, let me thank everyone for the overwhelmingly
very helpful replies.  I think I can safely conclude
the following:

1. I may still be able to "own" my domain name but
need to go to register it via a different entity
than Yahoo! to establish possession.

2. I'm really wasting my time with the big ISPs
when it comes to web-hosting.

3. I would be much better off using a decent ISP
and expending my energies somewhere other than
operating my own mail server.

Oh, and the entrepreneurial spirit is alive and
well on this list!

Thanks again!

Now to make some choices...

Best Regards,

- Mark

Mark Henigan
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