X-Account-Key: account1 X-UIDL: 111585 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 5.1.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Precedence: list Message-ID: Reply-To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Sender: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" X-Original-Message-ID: <4694281A.4090509@2rosenthals.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:45:14 -0400 From: "Lewis G Rosenthal" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: [OS2Wireless] To virtualize or not... (was: Re: [OS2Wireless] Thinkpad T60 doesn't fare too well with eCS demo CD) On 07/10/07 06:51 pm, Frank Vos thus wrote : > Hello Julian, > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:30:24 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote: > > >> In , on 07/11/07 >> at 06:38 AM, "Ed Durrant" typed: >> >> >> I might be tempted by using Microsoft's free Virtual PC under XP or >> Parallels under Linux. However, I'm still leaning to a good T43. >> > So I'm thinking about a replacement system, I prefer a laptop computer > because this enables me to work where I like. Finding a laptop that's > working with OS/2-eCS is hard, unless I buy a (second hand) T40 or T43 > I guess. I could also buy a laptop I like and run eCS in a virtual > machine, this way the hardware isn't a problem. > > I find it hard to make a choice, so I haven't decided yet. > > Even Novell is moving toward virtualization. Open Enterprise Server 2 is out now, and the next "version" of NetWare will be purely virtual, running on top of the Linux kernel. There are pros and cons to virtualization: * It's nice to be able to run several virtual servers on one piece of hardware; * It's nice to be able to reboot a virtualized OS in seconds instead of minutes; * It's nice to not have to worry about drivers for a plethora of OSes, and only for the base one OTOH: * Virtualization tends to under perform a native implementation; * Memory requirements for the host and guest OS can lead to several constraints (running multiple virtuals on desktop - or notebook - hardware can be, well, virtually impossible); * One loses out on the stability of the guest OS in lieu of accepting the stability (or lack thereof) of the host (NetWare is an extremely stable kernel; SuSE is, as well, though I have not found it to be as stable as NetWare - I won't go into the comparisons between the Windows OS and eCS) It's a coin toss. I guess it depends upon what hardware you really want, and how much time and effort would need to be expended for a native solution vs virtualization. -- Lewis ------------------------------------------------------------ Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC Accountants / Network Consultants New York / Northern Virginia www.2rosenthals.com eComStation Consultants www.ecomstation.com Novell Users Int'l www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? www.hautspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- electronic communications related to content contained in these messages should be directed to the above address. (CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=