From: "Will Honea" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2900507 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:52:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass (secmgr-ny.randr: domain of eigbox.net designates 66.96.186.1 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.96.186.1; envelope-from=SRS0=66n19G=FH=whonea.net=whonea@eigbox.net; helo=bosmailout01.eigbox.net; Received: from bosmailout01.eigbox.net ([66.96.186.1]) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnygX-0006JB-7K for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:52:56 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan25.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.25]) by bosmailout01.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MnygS-0005La-Uz for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:52:48 -0400 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan25.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MnygS-0004zV-VP for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:52:49 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp12.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.12]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id hVso1c00S0FdZ9W0000000; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:52:48 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.12 X-EN-IMPSID: hVso1c00S0FdZ9W0000000 Received: from 168-103-251-36.clsp.qwest.net ([168.103.251.36] helo=192.168.100.9) by bosauthsmtp12.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1MnygR-0004VZ-ST for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:52:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:52:46 -0600 To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Reply-To: "Will Honea" In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Re: Perhaps it is time to fix it? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Polarbar Mailer; version=1.25d; build=2006 X-Mailer-Platform: Linux; architecture=amd64; version=2.6.27.29-0.1-default X-Mailer-Java-VM: Sun Microsystems Inc.; version=1.6.0_0; compiler=null X-EN-UserInfo: b0192109012588bf2b05ebe482b26736:f259605ce5aa1fb891467026511a1cfb X-EN-AuthUser: whonea@whonea.net Sender: "Will Honea" X-EN-OrigIP: 168.103.251.36 X-EN-OrigHost: 168-103-251-36.clsp.qwest.net X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: 1.1 SARE_CHILDPRN1 BODY: contains reference to child porn Message-ID: ** Reply to message from "Neil Waldhauer" on Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:08:16 -0700 > I imagine you may have read such a thing, but it is not so. > > 1. Anyone in the USA can have an open router. > 2. Criminals (or anyone else) using an open router can easily be traced. You might want to re-study the latter claim. Assuming the normal "end of the line" user, the lowest level connection is their ISP. Unless you maintain a legally verifiable log of your own connections, any activity trace ends at the IP address of your router. We've had several cases locally of child porn activity that dead ended at the router and caused real problems for the (innocent) owner until the local cops - fortunately well trained - installed monitoring services to track the real user down inside the user's network. -- Will Honea