From: "Neil Waldhauer" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2900581 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:31:11 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([162.83.95.194] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1MnzHa-0006uu-QR for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:31:11 -0400 Received: from host1.cruzio.com ([63.249.95.131]:58361) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MnzHS-00023j-1D for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:31:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 70936 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2009 11:30:59 -0700 Received: from dsl-63-249-111-252.dhcp.cruzio.com (HELO 192.168.46.67) (63.249.111.252) by baywarp.org with SMTP; 16 Sep 2009 11:30:59 -0700 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4AB12EE6.02C6,ss=1,fgs=0 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:30:56 -0700 To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Re: Perhaps it is time to fix it? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Polarbar Mailer; version=1.25d; build=2006 X-Mailer-Platform: OS/2; architecture=x86; version=20.45 X-Mailer-Java-VM: IBM Corporation; version=J2RE 1.3.1 IBM build co131-20060605 (SR10) (JIT enabled: jitc); compiler=jitc Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:56:03 -0700, "Bob" wrote: > ** Reply to message from "Neil Waldhauer" > on Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:08:16 -0700 > > > > In fact I have read that > > > in the US, you are now committing a crime by having an open router!! > > > The point being that criminals (drug dealers, bank robbers, spammers > > > etc.) can use an open wifi router to communicate through and they can't > > > be traced. > > > > I imagine you may have read such a thing, but it is not so. > > > > 1. Anyone in the USA can have an open router. > > Sadly yes. Most are open because the person installing it is ignorant about > security, they just plug it in and use it. Some people know about security but > are too stupid to do it correctly. There are dozens of open public routers. They don't need mine. Your assumption that stupidity or ignorance is involved doesn't make sense to me. I think times have changed. I see more and more public networks, and private networks are fewer and fewer. > > > > 2. Criminals (or anyone else) using an open router can easily be traced. > > If someone parks near your house and uses your open router how do you find > them? Even finding a neighbor using your open router would be a problem if > your neighbor knows how to fake a MAC address. Forensics have come a long way since the times of merely obtaining an IP address. Neil -- Neil Waldhauer, neil@blondeguy.com I really don't think I need buns of steel. I'd be happy with buns of cinnamon.