From: "Ed Durrant" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 3000896 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:20:49 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([162.83.95.194] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1MuDu9-0000xy-6r for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:20:48 -0400 Received: from nskntqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com ([61.9.168.231]:21068) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MuDu6-0000fq-1F for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:20:42 -0400 Received: from nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com ([121.216.29.152]) by nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091003214544.NVTT21435.nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:45:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.100.2] (really [121.216.29.152]) by nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091003214543.QVXU28036.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@[192.168.100.2]> for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:45:43 +0000 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4AC7DC4A.00AE,ss=1,fgs=0 Message-ID: <4AC7C5F3.7060107@durrant.mine.nu> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:45:23 +1100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (OS/2/20090411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] OT?? cell phones References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com from [121.216.29.152] using ID edward.durrant@bigpond.com at Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:45:42 +0000 X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150201.4AC7C607.0067,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: _SUMMARY_ Ray Davison wrote: > Hey, it is wireless, and I couldn't find any place else to take the > question. > > When a cell phone is locked to a carrier, what is locked, the phone or > the SIM. I always thought it was the phone because they are sold as > locked or unlocked. If so, then what is this? > http://www.b2cshop24.com/en/turbo-sim-unlock-card-for-gsm-cell-mobile-no-need-to-cut.html > > > I have several Motorola, GSM that I want to unlock from AT&T. I own > them. And I have extra SIMs. Is AT&T required to unlock them if I > request? > > Ray > Generally Cell providers will unlock phones from their network, often for a fee, if the phone is out of contract (i.e. you have paid off its value over a period of time, often 2 years). Whether AT&T are "forced" to do this for you may depend upon the contract that you signed with them. I believe the "lock" is related to the phone itself, not the SIM as otherwise you could simply change the SIM and use the phone on another network - it may be that the SIM referred to at this site has an application on it to unlock phones. The legality of that and if after the action the phone will still work with the original or any carrier is a risk. Better to get the carrier to give you the unlock code if possible. -- Cheers/2 Ed eComStationAustralia podcast RSS feed http://eComStationAustralia.podbean.com/feed or iTunes Warpstock Europe at Stralsund, Germany 12-15 November 2009 http://www.warpstock.eu