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srtgray wrote:
> I think Thomas D is German, where "handy" is the usual name for mobile phone.
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> On Sun, November 15, 2009 3:48 pm, Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote:
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>> * Thomas Dennis wrote, On 11/15/2009 8:34 AM:
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>>> Hi All:
>>> A friend called me three times yesterday using POTS at their end and my
>>> handy # at my end.
>>>       
>> what is a handy #? Is this a VoIP #?
>>     
>>> My handy recorded the number that was sent over the telephone line and
>>> placed this number in my "missed calls" box.
>>> This friend (Helen) lives in another city with a different area code.
>>> Calling the number, which is a POTS number that has the same area code
>>> as mine, I get Alan (another friend who lives near me). He claims he
>>> doesn't know Helen and that the call didn't originate from
>>> his phone.
>>> I have no entry for Alan in my handy data base.
>>>       
>> in the US if you are outside a local calling area then you need to do
>> full 10 digit dialing which includes area codes. Even if you are inside
>> a local calling area 10 digit dialing is most likely required. VoIP
>> calls should all be 10 or 11 digit dialing in the US. Do you have to
>> dial a leading 1 for long distance?
>>
>> Leon
>> <snip>
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Srtgray and All others listening in:
I'm a transplanted American living in Germany.
Mobile phone numbers start with 016, 017, 018 and no area code is required.
My handy number is usable all over Europe.  If I cross any boarders, a 
call to my handy number
will still reach me.
The telephone companies have covered Europe with a bunch of low power 
transcievers to make
this all possible.  How they make the connection to POTS I can't say.
Why would anybody want to do something like that?
Is T-Online (the telephone company) affected by it?

Thomas