From: "Rick R." Received: from mxout1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.165] verified) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 829360 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:51:12 -0500 Received: from mxin1.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.175]) by mxout1.mailhop.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HFYxa-000EEj-VA for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:51:08 -0500 Received: from web61221.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.179.55]) by mxin1.mailhop.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HFYxX-0004LW-Az for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:50:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 68563 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2007 16:50:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=WYqqRA6QcL2J+W4zBwGIOClqUf8cXLX6tmdm8Tg+GvRvmVe2cUA4AInGUFkTtzg3TmNE2j4gaRbm6khGJqoSDHcbv6FrGQuOwnZ2ALrJdAxxGEAsItpE7U+iEdfRKpml5fVM8SbGom0+2DXQZkYd2p2LjVKKy52XJAsOcD4uIm4=; X-YMail-OSG: UcBII7gVM1nww7OZ_sncXcxFeqDnpd.RZQFMdxNzSKO_n5luP2lTddP4rhxMK0YgpotMhK08DnXsyGtpu0j9jSBgPxI_S4ZqvGAJsLvq3KrXkV_m__IgzPtOwDvqZ0kYDLTeVvh7sO3kuTvqTSvHKQxUPY3tFoPEqM62Gt2w3.Xdr1skQOjdMEy92xaXNj55BugfB6I.kC3NVoqBYLgrEayKwAo- Received: from [65.211.134.99] by web61221.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:50:45 PST Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:50:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: OT: Wi-Fi phones (was: Re: [OS2Wireless]Re: Wireless Phone Connectivity) To: OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <12045.66075.qm@web61221.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mail-Handler: MailHop by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 209.73.179.55 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Well, I had a complete suite of PalmOS apps for my NZ90, which I managed to make work nicely with OS/2. And to bring it all back OT, I even managed to hook my old Palm device up via WiFi as a remote drive. But that baby does not offer any phone connectivity and the browser just sucks on the Internet. No more driver updates and Palms last devicem the Treo 650, came completely w/o WiFi!!! So I want to be able to port the max of my Palm apps, and those are not just Office Readers, but complete suites that allow me to compose MS Office compatible documents, including database & server SW. Terminal programs, ftp suites (not just a simple cmd line interface), ftp & HTML servers, PDF & PS creators and very sophisitcated paint programs. In short, a PC "replacements" for times when I just don't want to lugg my laptop around with me. Now when I read the test report about that Sony/Ericson phone they specifically mentioned that that new Symbian OS was still short on apps, and e.g. just being able to view some MS office docs falls far short of what I'm now able to do on my Palm. Heck, I can compile a whole power point presentation and cut my own videos to go with that. I know that ~80-90% of those apps have a Windoze version. If Palm wouldn't have messed up their Treo so badly, I would have stayed with Palm. But I made my bad experiences with 3rd party PDA add-ons to get WiFi working where the manufacturer had decided it should not be implemented. So no thankz. And then I found a Windozw phone with WiFi, Bluetooth, Video Streaming, TV & recording PAL/NTSC/SECAM and then some. What can I say? The best Symbian version for that I could find was the Nokia phone and that doesn't even have a keyboard or a touch screen. And the keyboard for the Sony/Ericson is a joke, yet the touch screen there is so small that it would leave almost no space for display. That other phone has a big enough touch screen that you can use on-screen keys, but it also has some decent hard keys. What can I say, I spend two days looking and in the end there just aren't enough Symbian apps to allow me to use it as a full fledged PC replacement when I'm out in the field. I have over 8GB in database files in PDA format. Not to mention my speech translators... Jeez, I have a gig upcoming in Malaysia and w/o my translator they'll likely drive me to the red light district rather than to the hotel ;-) --- Lewis G Rosenthal wrote: > At the risk of going even further OT, what apps > would you be looking to > get? I have email (Profimail), Opera, file manager > (Profiexplorer), > Solitaire (50+?), IP subnet calculator, zip > extractor, FTP (yFTP), > built-in mpeg4, mp3 player, M$ Office file viewers > (rarely used, but > they're there), PDF viewer, and of course, the > obligatory calendar and > address book. What else would you want to do with > it? > > On 02/08/07 05:08 pm, Rick R. thus wrote : > > Nope, I need a phone that can do both. > > The Sony/Ericson looked good, but I got bubkies on > > Symbian Software apps for that. > > Seems I might get stuck with a Windoze phone after > all > > :-( > > > > > > --- Ed Durrant > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Would the new Linksys iPhone fit your needs ? > It's a > >> WiFi VOIP phone. > >> > >> > > > -- > Lewis > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Lewis G Rosenthal, CNA, CLP, CLE > Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC > Accountants / Network Consultants > New York / Northern Virginia > www.2rosenthals.com > eComStation Consultants > www.ecomstation.com > Novell Users Int'l > www.novell.com/openenterpriseserver > Need a managed Wi-Fi hotspot? > www.hautspot.com > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > This message is sent to you because you are > subscribed to > the mailing list > . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > > Send administrative queries to > > To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: > and reply to > the confirmation email. > > This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal > P.O. 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