From: "chekmarx" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2292502 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:16:42 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.randr ([192.168.200.201] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1NugMy-0007dM-LT for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:16:42 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f201.google.com ([209.85.221.201]:58656) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NugMn-0001vu-2d for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:16:30 -0400 Received: by qyk39 with SMTP id 39so532509qyk.25 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:16:28 -0700 (PDT) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4BAAFFBE.003B,ss=1,fgs=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JrWCtvtaoZ4Fz+z1eYO1aAkqX0pCUSNbEjjkF3vJSMU=; b=IEYz4De9CLAYAefKu09Ccy9KRcMPJ9ciZVTJzGTligVdEdJZY8bxpigpr31iO4nTqi HGCM/P1fWk6BrTsHmsUcBJy7XOKMUecrTrH6BTfdUkInQUS8rYVxEY/F6puutbcIlj79 FIrd4Nh2fUVhBcbfzw+eh3kThgoopjyTO9Hck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z3xYZuEpMGoHYcFr3XCCreAjZ7FPqwaGoLZltECICgSY/ny6qpbMvm5fdb5jQcPRq9 TWk8nwPYZfMA/8YRVhufsH2lbC8jgWFHrey5We/ZhH940ApR/Bf6YPYyJtS8+x6fW42/ Mu2CMFWbXmkO+JUHLcp1hrkmVbxtSpnE66VTI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.222.76 with SMTP id if12mr1367341qcb.17.1269497320534; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:08:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Wireless router To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e7f34d57343048299e0e6 --0016361e7f34d57343048299e0e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just as a point of reference, touching on Lewis's lack of experience with DLink wireless routers: When I needed to go wireless due to the location of the router relative to where my system was at my nephew kindly purchased for me a DLink rather than LinkSys router, which is the brand I've used to great success in the past. Not wanting to hurt his feelings and come off as a jerk, something which I do enough of :-) I was a tad leery at first since my wired LinkSys router ran flawlessly, but after setting up the DLink I've never had the need to touch it again. And it is on and operational 24/7 for going on nearly two-years now. Which IMO isn't too bad at all. Sometimes I think it is *where* the router is located that cause so many failures - meaning people I know tend to bury them with paper and books and disks and so on. Not having sufficient air-flow then causes them to overheat and die as Lewis states. Just wanted to toss this out there ... On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal < os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com> wrote: > Hey... > > On 03/24/10 10:32 am, Neil Waldhauer thus wrote : > > I've been using a Linksys wireless router, a WRT54G with firmware version >> v8.00.0. It's worked for years, but lately, it has been stopping, and I've >> needed to unplug it, count to 10, replug it to get my line working again. >> >> Last November, we had a short discussion on this list about this router, >> and >> how it slowly cooked itself to death. Is is reasonable to assume that my >> router >> is "done". If so, what is a similar router good for and eCS user? I'd like >> to >> get a cheap, yet reliable router. >> >> > The WRT54GL is probably as good as any other. All of these little devices > die from heat exhaustion at some point. Ed's suggestion is a good one, > though; I'd try flashing it, and of course, you could always add a fan > (google "wrt54g fan mod" and see some of the wacky things the kids have > "cooked" up for these little buggers) to help keep it cool and buy yourself > a few more years. > > New WRT54GL's (hardware only) are about $55 from Amazon > (and of course, Warpstock gets a bump from those sales) . > More are available on eBay, but of course, buying a used one means that you > may be purchasing one which is just as tired as yours is, now. DD-WRT and > OpenWRT will allow you to throttle back the CPU, to further reduce heat, if > you don't need it running at full throughput, although your broadband and > LAN performance - as well as your Wi-Fi output - is bound to suffer from a > lower clock speed. > > Alternatively, you could build yourself a nice little router which will run > DD-WRT. Check out: > > http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Mikrotik_Routerboard_RB/532 > http://www.routerboard.com/rb500.html > > I have had good results with the VIA mini-ITX boards, too. The real benefit > to building a box for yourself is that you get to mount the motherboard in a > real case with fans and a decent power supply (though the little stuff is > expensive for the space you get, so beware of that), and then choose your > antenna(s). > > If you don't want to get your hands dirty, but still want something a bit > more substantial than the LinkSys without paying an arm and a leg, look at > the Ubiquiti or Mikrotik offerings. I can usually get these at reasonable > prices through my Wi-Fi channel (no pun intended), so feel free to run > pricing past me to see if we can get you a better deal than advertised. > > I have almost no experience with D-Link wireless routers (though I've had > good luck with their small switches - better luck than the latest LinkSys > ones). Buffalo has some decent stuff (one of our Wi-Fi locations has a > Buffalo box running DD-WRT, and it seems to be fairly resilient to wide > temperature changes (it's in an unheated/un-air-conditioned room at a train > station). > > HTH > > -- > Lewis > --0016361e7f34d57343048299e0e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as a point of reference, touching on Lewis's lack of experience wi= th DLink wireless routers:=A0 When I needed to go wireless due to the locat= ion of the router relative to where my system was at my nephew kindly purch= ased for me a DLink rather than LinkSys router, which is the brand I've= used to great success in the past.=A0 Not wanting to hurt his feelings and= come off as a jerk, something which I do enough of :-)

I was a tad leery at first since my wired LinkSys router ran flawlessly= , but after setting up the DLink I've never had the need to touch it ag= ain.=A0 And it is on and operational 24/7 for going on nearly two-years now= .=A0 Which IMO isn't too bad at all.

Sometimes I think it is *where* the router is located that cause so man= y failures - meaning people I know tend to bury them with paper and books a= nd disks and so on.=A0 Not having sufficient air-flow then causes them to o= verheat and die as Lewis states.

Just wanted to toss this out there ...

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Lewis G Rosenthal <= os2-wireless_users@2r= osenthals.com> wrote:
Hey...

On 03/24/10 10:32 am, Neil Waldhauer thus wrote :

I've been using a Linksys wireless router, a WRT54G with firmware versi= on
v8.00.0. It's worked for years, but lately, it has been stopping, and I= 've
needed to unplug it, count to 10, replug it to get my line working again.
Last November, we had a short discussion on this list about this router, an= d
how it slowly cooked itself to death. Is is reasonable to assume that my ro= uter
is "done". If so, what is a similar router good for and eCS user?= I'd like to
get a cheap, yet reliable router.
=A0
The WRT54GL is probably as good as any other. All of these little devices d= ie from heat exhaustion at some point. Ed's suggestion is a good one, t= hough; I'd try flashing it, and of course, you could always add a fan (= google "wrt54g fan mod" and see some of the wacky things the kids= have "cooked" up for these little buggers) to help keep it cool = and buy yourself a few more years.

New WRT54GL's (hardware only) are about $55 from Amazon <shameless p= lug> (and of course, Warpstock gets a bump from those sales) </shamel= ess plug> . More are available on eBay, but of course, buying a used one= means that you may be purchasing one which is just as tired as yours is, n= ow. DD-WRT and OpenWRT will allow you to throttle back the CPU, to further = reduce heat, if you don't need it running at full throughput, although = your broadband and LAN performance - as well as your Wi-Fi output - is boun= d to suffer from a lower clock speed.

Alternatively, you could build yourself a nice little router which will run= DD-WRT. Check out:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Mikrotik_Routerboa= rd_RB/532
http://= www.routerboard.com/rb500.html

I have had good results with the VIA mini-ITX boards, too. The real benefit= to building a box for yourself is that you get to mount the motherboard in= a real case with fans and a decent power supply (though the little stuff i= s expensive for the space you get, so beware of that), and then choose your= antenna(s).

If you don't want to get your hands dirty, but still want something a b= it more substantial than the LinkSys without paying an arm and a leg, look = at the Ubiquiti or Mikrotik offerings. I can usually get these at reasonabl= e prices through my Wi-Fi channel (no pun intended), so feel free to run pr= icing past me to see if we can get you a better deal than advertised.

I have almost no experience with D-Link wireless routers (though I've h= ad good luck with their small switches - better luck than the latest LinkSy= s ones). Buffalo has some decent stuff (one of our Wi-Fi locations has a Bu= ffalo box running DD-WRT, and it seems to be fairly resilient to wide tempe= rature changes (it's in an unheated/un-air-conditioned room at a train = station).

HTH

--
Lewis

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