From: "Hakan" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2372003 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:36:12 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([162.83.95.194] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1O2Ew6-0000iW-J0 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:36:12 -0400 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:55411) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2Ew4-00084D-0y for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:36:08 -0400 Received: from ThinkPad (pool-70-20-186-13.phil.east.verizon.net [70.20.186.13]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MK0ej-1O1PzE1q57-001Yg6; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:36:07 -0400 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4BC67B98.01B1,ss=1,fgs=0 To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Hakan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.20.2382 for OS/2 Warp 4.5 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Tracerte, Delays and Unreachable Site Message-Id: <0MK0ej-1O1PzE1q57-001Yg6@mrelay.perfora.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18uAbEXbBWKyl+8PIyRD7S6RPMLvolrp75j89/ CW/JUwgHm2X55A6cAdRSPWHdhBHrhd992QIGejkjHfHTpDqJFJ Fug3LB58nZjTbl3xzfiVA== Yes but in my e-mail I gave information for the eCS box /and/ a Win box in the same location - both should use the same DNS server since it is supplied by the Netgear/Westell. Also, did both of you read through the other two cases which sheds additional light on the problem? On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:19:02 -0500, Sam Lewis wrote: >On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Hakan > wrote: >> Leon,On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:04:26 -0400, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: >> >>>hi there...what is the default route on the ecs box? >>>what is the DNS servers on ecs set to? >> >> Is this relevant? > >I didn't see this message earlier. It is VERY relevant. Depending on >your location where you get onto the internet you may be getting a >very high latency to the DNS server your using. So when you lookup a >site by name the query goes to your configured DNS server to translate >that name to an IP Address. So if your DNS server has high latency or >if your consumer level router is doing DNS for you and its CPU get's >busy it can make web browsing VERY slow. So using DNS Benchmark from > >http://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm > >you can find the best performing DNS server for your physical location >and improve your web browsing experience a great deal. > >Worth a try, >Sam > > >> As I said below, I can use my browser to get to the >> initial salesforce.com screen and I have no problem browsing 100 other >> sites which suggests that the DNS server must supply appropriate >> information, or? >> >>>On 04/14/2010 07:10 PM, Hakan wrote: >>>> Base Case >>>> I am unable to use tracerte to trace the route to salesforce.com from >>>> my T43p laptop running evS 1.2R connected to Verizon's network via a >>>> Netgear Wireless-N 300 Router (WNR2000v2) and then a Westell DSL modem. >>>> Tracerte does not supply me with any information after the 2nd hop >>>> which is the Westell modem, after that it simply displays '*' at each >>>> hop. Pinging salesforce.com from the same computer shows a time of 240 >>>> ms. Browsing this particular site in Firefox 3.5.9 or 3.6.3 is slow and >>>> inconsistent, meaning that the pages do not always load and many >>>> attempts have to be made to successfully load a page. I can reach other >>>> websites fine. Nslookup fails with the following message: >>>> >>>> *** Can't find server name for address 10.20.30.1: Non-existent >>>> host/domain >>>> *** Default servers are not available >>>> >>>10.20.30.1 must be the netgear and looks like it is being used as a >>>local DNS. Where does it get DNS from? >>> >>>let's tart with this stuff/ >>> >>>leon >>>> A machine running Windows connected to the same Netgear router and >>>> Westell DSL modem traces the route in 11 hops. Pinging salesforce.com >>>> shows here a consistent time of 85 ms. No problems browsing. Nslookup >>>> results in the same error message as above but also displays the IP >>>> address of salesforce.com. >>>> >>>> All of the above is also true, on both machines, when trying to reach >>>> the IP address, 204.14.234.33, directly. >>>> >>>> Case 2 >>>> I connected the T43p running eCS directly to the Netgear router using a >>>> cable and rebooted. I am still not able to trace the route to >>>> salesforce.com, nor is nslookup any more helpful than above, either >>>> when looking up the domain or using the above IP address. However, and >>>> importantly, the ping time is now down to 80 ms on this system as well. >>>> >>>> The conclusion is that using this particular wireless adapter under eCS >>>> (and on this particular computer) results in a signficant degradation >>>> in latency. >>>> >>>> Scenario 3 >>>> I now connected the T43p directly to the Westell DSL modem. The ping >>>> time stays at 80 ms, nslookup now works correctly (for both the domain >>>> and the IP address with no error messages) but tracerte still does not >>>> show any valid information beyond the Westell DSL modem. >>>> >>>> Can anyone suggest the reason for any or all of the above? A setting in >>>> the Netgear router which is not entirely compatible with eCS? An effect >>>> of using the Genmac driver where the communication is so slow that >>>> something times out at a low level? Something not compatible in the DSL >>>> modem or elsewhere on the Verizon network? Something else? >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>  the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to >>>Send administrative queries to   >>>To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: and reply to the confirmation email. >>>Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com >>> >>>This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC >>>P.O. Box 281, Deer Park, NY 11729-0281. Non- >>>electronic communications related to content >>>contained in these messages should be directed >>>to the above address. 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