From: "Sam Lewis" Received: from [192.168.100.201] (HELO mail.2rosenthals.com) by 2rosenthals.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 2374110 for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from secmgr-va.2rosenthals.com ([162.83.95.194] helo=mail2.2rosenthals.com) by secmgr-ny.randr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1O2pzN-00020b-Ln for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:10:05 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]:62911) by mail2.2rosenthals.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2pzG-0004a2-1A for os2-wireless_users@2rosenthals.com; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:09:56 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1134810fga.3 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4BC8A7F4.0082,ss=1,fgs=0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.35.10 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.42.191.58] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:09:47 -0500 Received: by 10.87.67.13 with SMTP id u13mr1633891fgk.66.1271441387143; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OS2Wireless] Tracerte, Delays and Unreachable Site To: "OS/2 Wireless Users Mailing List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Hakan wrote: > Both - they might be related. Note that the performance degradation > with the Genmac driver compared to the regular network driver is less > of a concern since I am assuming (rightly or wrongly at this time) that > that is caused by the layering of the Win driver. Originally I had thought that they must be separate issues and I would be concerned about the performance more that the functionality of tracerte. But now I'm not so sure. But at any rate I don't think it is related to genmac. I get the same results going to your web site using genmac on my wireless and the native realtek driver on my wired. My tracerte times out after my router and displays * and my ping times are 80ms and go up to 200 to 600ms when I browse the site, but I don't get a sense that the site is sluggish. I'm still leaning toward the router being bogged down. But I am just speculating. Sam > > On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:26:20 -0500, Sam Lewis wrote: > >>Just curious, are you more concerned about tracerte functionality or >>the poor performance? >>Sam >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, "Hakan" > > wrote: >> >>> No difference: >>> >>> [D:\]tracerte -n salesforce.com >>> traceroute to salesforce.com (204.14.234.33), 30 hops max, 38 byte >>> packets >>> 1 =A010.20.30.1 =A00 ms =A00 ms =A00 ms >>> 2 =A0192.168.1.1 =A00 ms =A010 ms * >>> 3 =A0* * * >>> 4 =A0* * * >>> 5 =A0* * * >>> 6 =A0* * * >>> 7 =A0* * * >>> 8 =A0* * * >>> 9 =A0* * * >>> 10 =A0* * * >>> 11 =A0* * * >>> 12 =A0* * * >>> 13 =A0* * * >>> 14 =A0* * * >>> 15 =A0* * * >>> 16 =A0* * * >>> 17 =A0* * * >>> 18 =A0* * * >>> 19 =A0* * * >>> 20 =A0* * * >>> 21 =A0* * * >>> >>> The external process was cancelled by a Ctrl+Break or another process. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:06:45 -0400 (EDT), Julian Thomas wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Hakan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Both the eCS and the Win computer use 10.20.30.1 as the DNS, i.e., >>>>> the >>>>> Netgear router, which is also the default gateway. Trace route on >>>>> both >>>>> machines take me to first the Netgear router, than the Westell >>>>> modem, >>>>> after that the OS/2 application returns only '*' for each hop and >>>>> eventually ends at 30 hops. The Win machine needs 11 hops to get to >>>>> salesforce.com. >>>>> >>>> Try traceroute -n (which bypasses the reverse DNS lookup) and also >>>> try the numeric IP for >>>> salesforce.com to see if that makes any difference. >>>> -- >>>> Julian Thomas: =A0 jt@jt-mj.net =A0 =A0http://jt-mj.net >>>> In the beautiful Genesee Valley of Western New York State! >>>> -- -- >>>> Windows: From the people who brought you EDLIN! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> > >>>> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to >>> > >>>> Send administrative queries to =A0>>> > >>>> To subscribe (new addresses), E-mail to: >>> > and reply to the confirmation email. >>>> Web archives are publicly available at: http://lists.2rosenthals.com >>>> >>>> This list is hosted by Rosenthal & Rosenthal, LLC >>>> P.O. 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